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david_l 08-21-2020 02:06 PM

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Marslife 08-21-2020 05:38 PM

Jeff B!
 
NICE score David!

david_l 08-21-2020 06:02 PM

Hehe thanks!

G1911 03-24-2021 01:02 PM

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Jeff B. stamp on another card. Normally don't really care about who owned a card before me, but Burdick I guess is as cool as that gets. Didn't think I would win, definitely question it's authenticity. Anyone recognize the other names? If it's a fake stamp the seller certainly seemed to not know anything about that, and didn't mention it at all. I'm always a sceptic of things that can be faked like this.

This was the listing:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-FLANAG...72.m2749.l2649

DaveW 03-24-2021 09:05 PM

Hi Greg - I guess that you and I were the only ones that noticed the stamp. I thought it might have been you that outbid me. I thought the stamp was real, but I suppose those could be faked, but there’s not enough price increase to make it worth it in my opinion, so congrats on a cool card.

G1911 03-25-2021 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveW (Post 2085241)
Hi Greg - I guess that you and I were the only ones that noticed the stamp. I thought it might have been you that outbid me. I thought the stamp was real, but I suppose those could be faked, but there’s not enough price increase to make it worth it in my opinion, so congrats on a cool card.

Should have guessed your eyes would have been the other spotter! I know the Burdick stamps carry some not insignificant value on baseball but no clue if they did on cards like this. I always like adding little variants, oddities and supplemental cards to my set runs



Thanks to my friend Marslife (Cliff) for pointing out one of the other stamps is William Beyer.

"H.E. Ross" might be Harold Ross, another early contributor to Burdick's publication and one of his known trading partners.

Not sure what the "J" above Breyer's name is, but the rest of the marks appear to be poorly stamped and incomplete versions of Burdick's. I guess nobody wanted to keep Mr. Flanagan for long

DaveW 03-26-2021 08:23 AM

I think that the J above Breyer’s name is the last part of the k at the end of Burdick. Compare it to the Burdick stamp just below it.

G1911 03-28-2021 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveW (Post 2085777)
I think that the J above Breyer’s name is the last part of the k at the end of Burdick. Compare it to the Burdick stamp just below it.

Your eyes are better than mine, thank you sir! It looks like this is it to me now

G1911 05-10-2021 01:02 PM

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Similar to the recurring (albeit it must be difficult, I've yet to see a third copy) McGrath in post 23, I found a Jack Sullivan with a similar "splotching". In hand, the light black layer over much of the card that appears smudged in several places at top is not dirt or damage. On right is a normal Sullivan with the same Mecca 649 back.

None of my other Sullivan's, or those on eBay at present, have this effect, but it is probably recurring, because of how this fits with the McGrath.

The more interesting thing about this card is how it fits with the McGrath I have. I have been looking for another series 1 card with a smudge defect like this in the bottom right of the card since I found the second McGrath, as it may suggest which card was the column/partial column next to McGrath. The second images shows the two defects with their backs oriented facing down, how they would presumably appear on a sheet. It is not conclusive evidence, but it does seem to suggest these cards may have been sheet mates. The matching defect, the matching shape with the 'two humps' and the matching location of the primary defect area would seem to indicate something in the way of the ink in this spot while printing. The evidence against this is that both the McGraths in my possession are F30 backs, Sullivan an F649, but this sample size is awfully small to conclude anything about.

I would be very interested in other folks Sullivan's (and McGrath's) to see if there are more examples (there must be, I am sure), particularly a F30 Sullivan or an F649 McGrath.

G1911 01-05-2022 12:10 PM

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Showing card to left was the same - like the Summer, T218-3 repeats cards horizontally and not just vertically like most ATC sets show. Consistent with T220-1.

G1911 12-11-2022 07:22 PM

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Surprised to find this one in a batch of 183 cards I bought. At least some T218-1 sheets clearly had cards printed upside down from other cards for some reason. The front is uninteresting and properly centered.


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