Vintage All Games Season Ticket Pass
 

I recently sold someone a 1952 American League all games season pass. The ticket was of an umpire, and in perfect condition. It has recently come to my attention that these passes/tickets are worth WAY more than I sold it for. Can anyone please shed some light on these, why they are worth so much, and how PSA can put a game/highlight on these when grading them if there is NO date on them? I am very interested to learn, as I have one of them left and don't want to get taken again. Thank you to all for enlightening me!!

Dave

How much did you sell the 1952 one for?

My experience with these is that the "value" (or at least, the price a collector will pay) tends to be all over the board. Some guys try to collect a "run" of passes, one for each year for each league. Others only want a specific year as a tie-in piece for some project they are working on. If the pass was issued to someone well-known, or if you have the original leather sheath that many of these were issued with, it can also add to the value.

I've had one for a little-known sports writer starting at $9.95 not draw a bid (think it was more recent than yours though), and I've gotten $150+ for ones issued to Joe DiMaggio, with others hitting somewhere in between, so there's a pretty good spread there.

Just my personal experience, when selling them as "auction" items. I have no idea what you're referring to with the PSA question, and have never submitted any to them, so I'll have to let others tackle that one and/or add their own experiences.

There are people that collect these in place of hard to find ticket stubs from famous games (a player gets his 500th hr, 3000th hit, etc). If the pass is from that same year and the same league, then it could have been used as a ticket for that game. That would jack up the price on the pass by a good margin, so it depends on the year as well as who's pass it was. Hope that helps.

When PSA grades these, they put on their holder examples of top games of that year, I'm guessing. So it would be Clemente's 3000th hit, Killebrew 500 HR, etc. I guess that is the draw. I've seen these things selling on the Bay for $2000. I had no idea that they were so much. Win some lose some.

Having bought and sold these on and off for the past 20 years, the $2,000 figure really surprises me.

You've actually seen them sell for $2k, or you've seen someone asking that for them? I would be very surprised it they've actually sold for that price unless they were very early or something rarer than the basic AL or NL season pass. It wouldn't be the first time that I've been surprised, but if that's the case, then I've clearly been doing something wrong in the marketing department :eek:

FYI, I've heard that the customer that submits these passes to PSA typically gives them the basic info that they would like to be included on the capsule slug. PSA cross-checks the info at their end.

IMHO, it's a sham that an American League pass would be viewed as a ticket to some specific event unless there was a newspaper story supporting that the specific pass patron attended the specific event.

Just another BS PSA scam. It dilutes the importance of an actual true ticket to a historic event in baseball history.

Scott, I agree with you 100 percent. The good thing about those passes though is that they are nice for a display for events that don't have many tickets. I'm thinking "the shot heard round the world", or Gehrig's farewell speech, etc. More representative that it "could" have been used...much like an unused real game ticket.

I've got one left. I'll see PSA tomorrow at the East Coast National White Plains show and tell them what to put on the ticket. It sure seems like it minimizes the value of the actual ticket to the game if these things are selling for so high.

Mike,
I do agree with what you are saying here.

Frankly though, I'm not surprised in the least that PSA would be more than happy to do anything that would make them money throwing a slab around anything. :rolleyes:

Again, there has been feedback in this thread expressing surprise at the thought of these selling for four figures on a regular basis. And even if they are, I don't think the prices of tickets issued for milestone games are diminished.

As an Indians collector, the choice between buying a ticket stub to Bob Feller's opening-day no-hitter vs. a 1940 season pass is a no-brainer. And if I heard that a season pass had sold for, say, $1,500, that certainly wouldn't influence me to pay less for the actual ticket stub. Heck, if anything, it likely would drive up the price. But that's a big "if."

I think the prices of season passes and ticket stubs to milestone games are independent of each other. Other ticket collectors might feel differently.

Good point Rob. I just found my other ticket. It is a 1947 National Association Professional Baseball Leagues All Grounds pass, issued to Maurice DeLoof and signed by George Trautman, their President. This was the minor leagues. What would this one be worth? Worth grading? Any thoughts? Thanks to all for this thread.

Ticket vs pass
 

That is a very interesting thread...

I love those vintage tickets and pass from pro sports. Two years ago, i got a collection and in it was a Montreal Canadiens season pass and a full ticket from the same year

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9921e65e.jpg

I sold the pass for 350.00 and the complete for 500.00.....i think the full thickets from the 1960 and older have beame really scarce and in time more valuable.....

Complete tickets and complete sets can go for crazy money believe me i just sold this...for a very high price....

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbfd6b3d3.jpg

What would be the odds of finding two complete tickets from a 1950's game ?

What would be the odds of finding a complete 1950's or 60's complete season tickets ?

What would be the odds of those ticket to be still attached in groups ?

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps6b2f5dac.jpg

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psf35ed8d2.jpg


http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa05ecee2.jpg

http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/a...psbc0800dc.jpg

I guess, alot of things have an impact...theme, history or event, quantity, grading and condition, market and franchise history.....

Here's mine
 

one of only 3 or 4 graded by PSA and it being the top one graded, but yes they put on what I asked:

for sale on Ebay at a higher price or here for a decent price ; )