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Archive 12-12-2008 09:04 AM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br>I need your help in identifying a set of cards that contains Philadelphia Athletics and Phillies. I have been collecting Lefty Grove cards for more than 12 years and have never seen this set before. I am assuming, therefore, that the cards are rather obscure. I've included a picture of the Grove card below. There are 27 cards in the set. They include 25 players, one manager and one announcer.<br><br>Here is the checklist of cards (the cards are unnumbered):<br><br>Connie Mack, Manager, Athletics<br>Lefty Grove, Pitcher, Athletics<br>Bob Johnson, Outfield, Athletics<br>Stuffy McInnis, Infield/Pinch Hitter, Athletics<br>Bing Miller, Center Field, Athletics<br>Mickey Cochrane, Catcher, Athletics<br>Jack Coombs, Pitcher, Athletics<br>Eddie Collins, Second Base, Athletics<br>Jimmy Dykes, Infield/Pinch Hitter, Athletics<br>Rube Waddell, Pitcher, Athletics<br>Jimmy Foxx, First Base, Athletics<br>Wally Moses, Outfield/Pinch Hitter, Athletics<br>Al Simmons, Left Field, Athletics<br>Chief Bender, Pitcher, Athletics<br>Eddie Plank, Pitcher, Athletics<br>Frank &quot;Home Run&quot; Baker, Infield/Pinch Hitter, Athletics<br>Wally Schang, Cathcer/Pinch Hitter, Athletics<br>Del Ennis, Outfield, Phillies<br>Larry Bowa, Shortstop, Phillies<br>Robin Roberts, Pitcher, Phillies<br>Chuck Klein, Right Field, Phillies<br>Grover Alexander, Pitcher, Phillies<br>Mike Schmidt, Third Base, Phillies<br>Jim Bunning, Pitcher, Phillies<br>Cy Williams, Center Field, Phillies<br>Steve Carlton, Pitcher, Phillies<br>By Saam, Announcer<br><br>Now that I've had a chance to look at the cards, I have dated the set to late 1986 or early 1987. The back of the Schmidt card says, &quot;495 home runs&quot;. Schmidt had 495 home runs after the 1986 season.<br><br>The cards look a lot of like 1973 Topps cards. The cards measure 2 1/2 by 3 1/2.<br><br>Here's what the Grove card looks like.<br><br><img src="http://www.bandkgreen.net/lefty_grove/newcard.jpg" alt="[linked image]">

Archive 12-12-2008 02:28 PM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>I've never seen it, and I've seen a LOT of sets from that time period. My guess would be it's a Broder (unlicensed) issue. It is not in the Standard Catalog.

Archive 12-12-2008 08:12 PM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br>I've had a chance to include a checklist above. Based on the back of the Schmidt card, I've dated the set to 1986 or 1987. Can anyone give me any more information about this set?

Archive 12-13-2008 08:51 AM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Maybe Bob L or Rich K will see this thread and lend a hand....They have seen a lot of sets from this time period (I am sure)....good luck

Archive 12-14-2008 03:57 AM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>perhaps this was a card set released by <br><a href="http://www.philadelphiaathletics.org/index.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.philadelphiaathletics.org/index.html</a><br>they have been around since 1975

Archive 12-14-2008 04:05 AM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Brad Green</b><p><br>The thought about this set being produced by the Philadelphia Athletics Historical Society had crossed my mind at one point as well. However, I then considered the fact that this set includes Phillies cards as well and eliminated that Society from the list of possible producers.<br><br>So far, no concrete evidence has been presented as to who the producer of this set is. Several people that I've had email exchanges with seem to think that this set was an unlicensed set, possibly produced by Broder (as Bob mentioned above).

Archive 12-16-2008 08:31 AM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Red</b><p>It looks like something they may have put out back then. They didn't restrict their card making to just A's.<br><a href="http://www.philadelphiaathletics.org/cgi-local/cart.pl?DT=8" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.philadelphiaathletics.org/cgi-local/cart.pl?DT=8</a><br>

Archive 12-16-2008 01:39 PM

Please Help Identify this 1986 or 1987 Philadelphia Athletics/Phillies Set
 
Posted By: <b>Bob Lemke</b><p>I don't recall ever seeing this set in my tenure with the Standard Catalog. The Philadelphia A's Historical Society was real good about keeping us apprised of their output, so I don't think it originated there.<br><br>I also had a good source for data about early (1970s) show issues from the Philly Show guys. but don't believe they were doing cards by the mid 1980s.<br><br>I'd guess it's a collectors' issue, but as I said, it's new to me.


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