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vintagephotosrus 10-14-2018 04:17 PM

Stuff still turns up at local Antique street Fairs / 1888 scrapps team set
 
Been going to a local antique street fair each year for the past 20+ years and turned these 2 single original scarp book pages up - featuring 1888 scrapps of both teams. now the work beings on removing them off the old brittle pages. Stuff still turns up now and then.

https://imagehost.vendio.com/a/90527...2730352941.jpg

https://imagehost.vendio.com/a/90527...6170131756.jpg

chlankf 10-14-2018 04:22 PM

Great find, congrats.

bigfanNY 10-14-2018 04:37 PM

Nice find Good luck with removal. You have the one Detroit head to practice with but if it soaks off they should all come away easily. Be patient with drying.

sb1 10-14-2018 05:01 PM

I wouldn't even bother to soak, odds are it will not go well and these display wonderfully as the day someone did it 100+ years ago. The purist will appreciate them as they are.

CobbSpikedMe 10-14-2018 05:10 PM

I tend to agree with Scott that they present well as is. I would frame them just like they are.

Joe_G. 10-14-2018 05:28 PM

Nice find.

Similar to an old chest I found with some Detroit Scrapps (or as Al at LOTG figured out, H. D. Smith & Co Baseball Gum Die-Cuts). Easier call in my case, I was certainly going to leave them as found.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=18406

Jay Wolt 10-14-2018 05:47 PM

Joe that chest is fantastic

slidekellyslide 10-14-2018 09:51 PM

I seem to recall someone on here a decade plus back soaking a Scrapp off a scrapbook page and it was a disaster. I would not soak them off...if you have to have them off consult a professional.

drcy 10-15-2018 09:01 AM

You could rectangularly cut them out and have them graded authentic-- if you wanted.

Scraps were designed to be pasted into albums, so, unlike if they were Topps or Goudeys, they are in their natural and intended state. And, of course, their backs are blank anyway.

vintagephotosrus 10-15-2018 09:13 AM

From what I have seen over the many years. These 1888 scrapps, majority are found in Victorian period scrapbooks. They are mounted onto the albums pages either by using water/flour homemade paste method or wood glue. If they are glued in using the homemade glue they soak off without issue and with no stains.

Typically these are glue in using the wood glue method and leaves a stain on back and sometimes soaks through to the front and leave a light stain on front.

If done right by taking the time these shouldn’t be an issue to remove off the page. Since these are attached to the page using wood glue...I am have them professionally removed. Best way to tell what the task will be. Is to start with the one that is damaged “ the players head” and go from there.

aquarius31 10-15-2018 10:12 AM

If your primary goal is to make money, then yeah I guess you could have them removed and then graded although you’ll get dinged on the glue residue.

If however the goal is to enjoy them in the current state (for which they were intended) then keep as is, have it conserved and then framed.

My 2 cents is that they look fantastic as is.


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Huysmans 10-15-2018 11:13 AM

I'm in agreement with the majority...
keep them intact as is.

vintagephotosrus 10-15-2018 04:01 PM

Correct the ones I plan on keeping for my collection I will enjoy them!

I do collect 19 th century and early 20 th baseball cards, 19 th century baseball related tradecards and original baseball negatives and photographs. Been collection for many years now.

The reason them to be soaked off will be used for upgrades and there sold off to other collectors.


Thanks

Leon 10-18-2018 03:57 PM

Let us know how it turns out. I think I have a Comisky glued to a scrapbook page also,


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Originally Posted by vintagephotosrus (Post 1819962)
Correct the ones I plan on keeping for my collection I will enjoy them!

I do collect 19 th century and early 20 th baseball cards, 19 th century baseball related tradecards and original baseball negatives and photographs. Been collection for many years now.

1 reason the St Louis are going to be soaked off is:
I need the comisky and Gleason for my Black Sox collection and the others used for upgrades.
Been bidding on them several times when they come up and unable to win them.
So this task is now complete and crossed off my list.

The reason the Detroit will be soaked off will be used for upgrades.

All the others will available for sale in the near future to other collectors.

NOTE:
Yes I do have a plan in place and a reason for removing these off the brittle, fragile falling apart thin 19 th c paper album page.

Thanks


vintagephotosrus 11-11-2018 10:32 PM

1888 scrapp
 
hello Leon
here is the comiskey that was on that was removed from that album page

https://imagehost.vendio.com/a/90527...69744128_n.jpg

Leon 11-12-2018 07:28 AM

That came out beautifully. Congrats. A very, very nice example.!!

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Originally Posted by vintagephotosrus (Post 1826430)
hello Leon
here is the comiskey that was on that was removed from that album page

https://imagehost.vendio.com/a/90527...69744128_n.jpg



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