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zljones 11-12-2011 04:01 PM

T205 Hughie Jennings scarce?
 
I had a hell of a time getting a T205 Jennings card for my collection, and not JUST because of affordability, I really don't see very many of them sold anywhere, is this one possibly a little more scarce?

Wite3 11-12-2011 04:14 PM

Jennings comes in one of the more common back groupings and is not considered scarce. Popular yes, scarce no. I have seen many many Jennings over the years. Sometimes, certain cards just do not come up. I searched for a Mitchell for nearly 6 months once for a friend.

Joshua

Runscott 11-12-2011 04:59 PM

Hopefully this won't be considered a hi-jack, but what ARE the scarcest T205's? I know the Hoblitzell no stats and Matty 1 loss are the top two rarities, but how about these two:

Hoblitzell - name correct, no Cin
Wallace - no cap, 1 line of 1910 stats

T205Guy 11-12-2011 05:00 PM

I have been collecting T205's since the early 90's, funny, but Jennings was my very first card! Great set to collect - Good luck...

Ed

zljones 11-12-2011 06:29 PM

From my understanding the second hardest in the Addie Joss, I am kicking myself for not bidding on one that was in poor condition, but at the time I did not know how rare it was.

I have been stacking up my T205 HOF collection very nicely but now I am getting down to the toughest of all expense wise and rarity wise: Cobb, Johnson, Evers, Walsh, Joss, and the two mouth open cards.

egbeachley 11-12-2011 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott (Post 939094)
Hopefully this won't be considered a hi-jack, but what ARE the scarcest T205's? I know the Hoblitzell no stats and Matty 1 loss are the top two rarities, but how about these two:

Hoblitzell - name correct, no Cin
Wallace - no cap, 1 line of 1910 stats

Matty 1 loss is a regular Cycle backed card.

Misunderestimated 11-12-2011 07:17 PM

Along with the one line Wallace and the Hoblitzell no stats the stray line version of the Moran card, the correct "suffered" of Wilhelm and the Mathewson error (only found on the Cycle) are especially difficult.

If you discount these variations that are purely based on the back of the cards and mostly correspond to the companies, the harder HOF cards are Joss, Wallace (without cap -- 2 versions); Collins and Bresnahan (open Mouth Vars.); Jimmy Collins (Minor League and thus Hassan Back) and Ed Walsh. The last one I'm not as sure about but I recall that card being considered more difficult back in the day.

I don't think Jennings has ever been regarded as hard to find.

Wite3 11-12-2011 11:47 PM

In my T205 research...Hobby no stats is toughest, Wilhelm suffered seems to come next, Joss, Wallace no cap 1 line, Moran stray, Gray w/ stats and Hobby name correct, no Cin. are all the next grouping.

Breshnahan open, Collins open, the two Cubs variations, Walsh, Fisher, Rowan, Sweeney, etc. are the next tier.

Matty cycle is just as rare as a Hemphill cycle...meaning, rare but not that rare. Same goes with the Collins minor league card. It is just as rare as any other minor leaguer. The only reason these two are considered rare is the demand for them.

If you do a search for back rarity, I know that I have written on this subject many many times before.

Joshua

zljones 11-13-2011 12:00 AM

Luckily I am not into the different error cards such as Wallace no cap 1 line. I just picked up a Wallace no cap 2 lines for 185 shipped that was graded SGC poor, but it was worth it to me because the front was beautiful, and there was just paperloss on the back. Even though I overpaid a little it's still great! But now I am down to those rarities, I had a chance recently to get a t205 walsh in poor and t205 evers poor, but I did not bid high enough because I had no idea how rare these were a month ago. I even had a chance at a poor condition Joss a few weeks back that passed up, now I feel sour that I did not bid or did not bid enough. I just got moved on from post war collecting, getting familiar with pre WW1 cards. But now I missed some big opportunities last month on ebay.

How often do those rarities pop up in auction in poor condition? Once a year, once a month?

bbcard1 11-13-2011 07:09 AM

I did an all fronts T205 set last year (with a lot of skins) but my toughie was Magee. For every set you collect, there's always got to be a last card...


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