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vintagebaseballcardguy 04-14-2019 02:20 PM

T206 HOFers that aren't the "big ones"
 
I am considering adding some graded T206 HOFers to my collection. Obviously, players like Cobb, Mathewson, Johnson, and Young are "the" cards to own. My budget won't always permit that, however. What about the next tier of HOFers such as Tinker (the hands on knees pose is awesome!), Lajoie, Bender, etc? If purchased at a reasonable cost, are they considered solid purchases, too? I figure I would be looking in the PSA/SGC 2 or 3 range. Thanks for the input.

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ullmandds 04-14-2019 02:23 PM

keeler batting is a sweet pose!

darwinbulldog 04-14-2019 04:06 PM

Keeler is a nice one. You can get some other pretty great players fairly cheap (compared to Mathewson et al.). Eddie Collins, John McGraw, Ed Walsh, Rube Waddell, Nap Lajoie... Speaker would be at the top of that list, but people think it's his rookie card.

vintagebaseballcardguy 04-14-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by darwinbulldog (Post 1870281)
Keeler is a nice one. You can get some other pretty great players fairly cheap (compared to Mathewson et al.). Eddie Collins, John McGraw, Ed Walsh, Rube Waddell, Nap Lajoie... Speaker would be at the top of that list, but people think it's his rookie card.

Of those names you listed, I have especially thought about Lajoie and McGraw. I guess my hesitation with McGraw is that I would in essence be purchasing several manager cards. He was a larger than life figure though. I am sure there are plenty of McGraw collectors out there.

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Throttlesteer 04-14-2019 05:03 PM

Lajoie and Speaker are getting to be pricey too. Some of the others are tough, depending on the pose you want. I would add Baker, Crawford, and Mordecai Brown to your list.

Mark 04-14-2019 05:19 PM

portraits
 
Some of the portraits of HOF pitchers are very appealing: Walsh, Bender, Marquard, Waddell, Chesbro, etc.

sreader3 04-14-2019 05:41 PM

I have always been partial to Waddell Throwing. Beautiful artwork and, as a non-portrait, has not been bid up quite as much lately. Also agree on Keeler w/Bat but he’s a little more spendy.

If you want to go budget try Chance Yellow Portrait or Evers Yellow Sky. Nice looking cards but since there is a larger supply (because they are “superprinted”) they are a little easier on the wallet.

CobbSpikedMe 04-14-2019 06:02 PM

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I've always thought the Walsh portrait was underpriced and that it is a very nice looking card that doesn't show up all the time. Just my thoughts.

Rhotchkiss 04-14-2019 06:54 PM

I agree - the yellow Chance is a solid card. Chance is a legit HOFer and a Cub (good combo), and because the card was super-printed, there are many around and you can even get a rarer back (plenty combos to choose from) for a decent price. Regardless, buying any t206 HOFer in my opinion is a fine idea.

vintagebaseballcardguy 04-14-2019 07:23 PM

Thanks for all the input, guys. I also like the looks of the Tinker Hands on Knees. Later this year, I hope to be able to get a red portrait Cobb and perhaps a Mathewson or Big Train.

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Rhotchkiss 04-14-2019 07:28 PM

Tinker hands on knees is a good one. Those tend to run a bit pricey, especially in high grades. Not really sure why... Lajoie throwing always for some reason reminded me of tinker hands on knees (and chance batting is very similar to tinker bat off)

MVSNYC 04-14-2019 07:29 PM

There's several threads, if you do a search, that breaks down the various HOF "tiers" in the T206 set...as I wouldn't include Tinker or Bender in the "next tier" as you say.

From memory, but it's been widely discussed here...

1. Cobb, Matty, Cy, WaJo
2. Lajoie, Speaker
3. Collins, Waddell

etc, etc...

Exhibitman 04-14-2019 08:52 PM

Two thumbs way up for the Collins portrait; just a beautiful card

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ollins%20E.jpg

You might also consider portraits of "the trio of bear cubs"; all three come with the gray "Cubs" shirt.

seanofjapan 04-14-2019 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sreader3 (Post 1870314)
I have always been partial to Waddell Throwing. Beautiful artwork and, as a non-portrait, has not been bid up quite as much lately. Also agree on Keeler w/Bat but he’s a little more spendy.

If you want to go budget try Chance Yellow Portrait or Evers Yellow Sky. Nice looking cards but since there is a larger supply (because they are “superprinted”) they are a little easier on the wallet.

Agree about the Waddell. Its the only T206 card that I own and its a beauty.

GregZakwin 04-14-2019 09:46 PM

Zack Wheat, cough cough....

GoldenAge50s 04-15-2019 03:25 AM

I feel as though--
 
--ANY HOFer is a pretty safe buy! As far as I know, NONE of them take a sudden dip in price or value. Correct me if I speak in error.

rats60 04-15-2019 05:41 AM

Tris Speaker is definitely at the top of the list below the 4 you picked. Eddie Collins is the most underpriced. He should be in the tier with Speaker and Lajoie, but sells for less. I would also agree with Keeler. Those would be my next 4.

ClementeFanOh 04-15-2019 05:59 AM

The Lajoie Portrait is definitely knocking on the door of moving "up" in tier, the prices are going in one direction. Plus, it's a GREAT card.

bbcard1 04-15-2019 06:36 AM

I like Crawford in that "third tier HOF group." The Baker is probably the last HOFer I upgraded and I think I got a pretty presentable one for $90 or so. I agree Collins is an amazing card...all photographic evidence would indicate that that portrait was done during the six months of his life that he looked the best he ever would.

docpatlv 04-15-2019 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bbcard1 (Post 1870396)
I like Crawford in that "third tier HOF group." The Baker is probably the last HOFer I upgraded and I think I got a pretty presentable one for $90 or so. I agree Collins is an amazing card...all photographic evidence would indicate that that portrait was done during the six months of his life that he looked the best he ever would.

Lol...I’ve always thought the same thing.

Exhibitman 04-15-2019 06:55 AM

Or perhaps Horner was a genuinely gifted artist

https://www.christies.com/img/LotIma...rl_horner).jpg

vintagebaseballcardguy 04-15-2019 08:29 AM

Thanks for all the good ideas, guys. I really do appreciate it. Up until recently, I was a set builder (mainly postwar) and had tried that approach the two different times when I dabbled in T206. That approach led to failure. Now I am busting my sets and strictly going the slabbed HOFer route. This has strangely simplified things for me. It just hit me this weekend that this HOFer route could include T206, and I got really excited! Those other times when I tried and failed, it was mainly because I was bogging myself down with commons. This will be a lot more fun, just picking up HOFers of prewar players...and not just T206. I am a little frustrated at the price point of the red portrait Cobb along with Mathewson and Johnson, but I will eventually be able to land one of each of those players, too. For the most part, however, I will be targeting the names you all have been throwing out.

insidethewrapper 04-15-2019 08:58 AM

Hughie Jennings HOF'er has 3 cards in the T206 set.

bbcard1 04-15-2019 09:18 AM

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Lol...I’ve always thought the same thing.

I think if you posted these two photos and you didn't KNOW who it was you'd probably hear," I don't think it's the same guy." "Ears are different." "Don't see the resemblance."

vintagebaseballcardguy 04-16-2019 07:11 PM

Of course all of this discussion about HOF T206 cards has led me to surf Ebay, just looking around. You guys have made some great HOF suggestions which have naturally led me to...the Hal Chase pink and blue portrait cards. I just can't get out of my own way! [emoji2957] I haven't bought anything at this point, but those two cards are sweet IMHO, even if he isn't a HOFer. Just leave it to me to go off track!

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MVSNYC 04-16-2019 07:36 PM

Robert- here's a collecting idea for you. If you like Hal Chase...

Maybe focus on banned players/Black Sox?

Chase, Cicotte, Gandil, Sleepy Bill Burns...Eddie Collins, just due to being on the 1919 Sox, and also being a 3k hit HOFer.

Kenny Cole 04-16-2019 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagebaseballcardguy (Post 1870412)
Thanks for all the good ideas, guys. I really do appreciate it. Up until recently, I was a set builder (mainly postwar) and had tried that approach the two different times when I dabbled in T206. That approach led to failure. Now I am busting my sets and strictly going the slabbed HOFer route. This has strangely simplified things for me. It just hit me this weekend that this HOFer route could include T206, and I got really excited! Those other times when I tried and failed, it was mainly because I was bogging myself down with commons. This will be a lot more fun, just picking up HOFers of prewar players...and not just T206. I am a little frustrated at the price point of the red portrait Cobb along with Mathewson and Johnson, but I will eventually be able to land one of each of those players, too. For the most part, however, I will be targeting the names you all have been throwing out.

I went the way you are thinking about a number of years ago and do not regret it at all. I still pick up commons that I think might be elected like Dahlen, or guys like Chase, but I feel no need to pick up a bunch of commons that I could care less about. It might not work for everyone but it sure works for me. Good luck.

Pilot172000 04-16-2019 08:41 PM

I’m a big fans of Eddie Collins and Homerun Baker. Outside the box picks would be Zach Wheat, Iron Man McGinty, and Chief Bender Portrait.

Leon 04-19-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 1870299)
Lajoie and Speaker are getting to be pricey too. Some of the others are tough, depending on the pose you want. I would add Baker, Crawford, and Mordecai Brown to your list.

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