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Those are all 3 insanely rare. I have never seen the bottom two. Especially love the Rizzuto, and didn't know it existed. As for the '62 Yankees... I have only seen one other, and it did not have the "Giant Killers" caption. I do have the matching Giants Pennant, and it doesn't have a caption like that either. Great stuff! DWR: Love the Dodger Banners.... They really capture the era and look very cool. :cool: |
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Below is the regular (common) version of the Rizzuto/Yankees Pennant. Also a much less common version, with blue fringe instead of tassels. DWR: Below is another cool earlier Dodgers Banner (from Jackie's Rookie Season...) Rob: Below is the Giants Pennant that I most regret selling. It's really rare, and is from Willie Mays' time as a New York Giant. I thought I might see another one turn up, but that's not been the case. :( Still feeling the remorse, but it went to a great collector with impeccable taste. He specializes in 1950s "Player Pennants", so it found it's proper home. This is the example pictured on the cover of Mike's Pennant Price Guide. I'm curious if you have this one, as it's about the only Giants Pennant I didn't see pictured in your wonderful collection. I'll throw in one more Giants Pennant below... I sold this one 3-4 years ago, and haven't seen another with multi-color graphics. I believe this one to be to be fairly rare, too. |
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So, the "Giant Killers" was glued on after the Series? That is cool...never seen it. I also have the Giants version in orange on black (reversed). The bottom pennant is seen in other colors. I also have the red one. Don't know if the Yanks got "top billing" in the ones sold in NY. |
Loved the description with this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MLB-Flag-Pen...item338bde938e "This item was rolled up and stuck in a drawer since 1961 and is in very good condition. There are no Pin holes that I can see or stains. Some of the stitching is not perfect on the flag end but it has not been altered or messed with in any way. Thanks for looking and enjoy it as much as I have!" i.e. stick it in a drawer. :D |
That description is pretty funny, but I would rather see that than some of the other moronic descriptions from people that should probably know better. At least with that you know you should most likely be getting what you expect with no deception.
I believe the other Giants pennant I saw was your orange version. Very clean. You can tell that blue version you have is tough as well just by the manufacturing process or lack there of. Both very nice pennants. For Doug, Both DWR and I come across those Dodgers / Twins banners every once in a long while. They are tougher than the Yankees version, but not impossible to find. The hardest thing to find is either version with a good hanging rod with string that is still complete. If you want to PM me I can try to let you know if I run across one in the future. Rob, Here's one that's not quite a Giants, only a Giants farm club that still fits the bill with the batter. Mark, I found a couple of the tassel versions too in both colors. I have only seen red and blue. I had another of these, but I think I sold it on Ebay a few years back. I used to have the World Series version, but they are so expensive now that I ended up selling it. Have you ever seen any other tasseled versions other than these three? I have the regular versions as well so I just have always assumed that the manufacture put the tassels on a few to dress them up. Either that or they got a better deal on some closeout gold tasseled piping and went that route to finish an order. Either way, it looks nice. |
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Mark - Love that Mays - I do not think we will ever see another one like it. Appreciate very much that you let it go to me. Jason - Thanks for helping me with what I think in the best example of the Jackie Robinson Portait Pennant. I have also posted a photo of the fringe 1955 World Series Pennant. Not perfect with coloration - it had a red pennant stacked on top and got caught in some rain - but in great shape |
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Jason - The Rizzuto looks great. Also, I have never seen another of the picture Mantle. Actually with as popular as The Mick was, you would expect to see more examples. Jerry |
All of the photo pennants that are not Twins are very rare. Most of the player photo pennants shown I have seen less than 5 of. I used to own a Reggie Jackson so I know there are at least two. I have only seen that one Clemente and possibly two Mantles. The only other one I have seen is the one pictured in Mike's book, but it might be this same one. I also know of one Hank Aaron with a b&w photo that I have only seen one of. Super tough though.
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I have seen some player photo pennants from the Angels. 1960-70"s era. Jerry |
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Jason - that Mantle is awesome! I can't believe we haven't found another Yankee like a Maris. |
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That's the Yaz pennant I was referring to. Jason was able to find the Carew hanging pennant for me a few years ago and that one is not going anywhere for awhile.
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Probably my favorite. Not just that it shows a full-bodied astronaut, but that the astronaut looks like he is waiting for a bus. This is from what was probably the end of the run of Keezer pennants, perhaps right after the name change. Strange but very cool. I like the Keezer pennants, actually, they are identifiable by their very thick tassels, two-color designs, and double-stitching that doesn't come loose. And many are stamped on the back.
Keezer has two seperate Phillies versions, one of which is fantastic, picture to follow ... |
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Here is another lefty batter type plus a couple of tough ones. Mike
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Mike: Nice pennants! Here's the Reds version of the last one you posted. Have you seen any other teams represented? Anyone else feel free to chime in:)
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There was a lot of discussion a few pages back about player photo pennants - most commonly seen, I think, in Twins, Cubs, Angels and Dodgers. When I joined this board a few months ago, I had just acquired a Giants pennant that had never been seen before by myself or my fellow Giants collectors. I got it cheap with a Buy It Now. :D
I started a thread on it: http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...viously+unseen In the end, the seller told me this: "The pennant is from the 1950's or 1960's it was in a storage room at WinCraft in Winona, MN. I received it from a relative who was cleaning out an old store room. I received it in 1982 but it is much much older. The other pennants with that look are from the late 1950's and early 1960's. For example I've seen a MN Twins pennant w/ a Harmon Killabrew card in it." Mark (perezfan) told me he equates Wincraft with stiff modern pennants (as did I) but the company has apparently been around since 1961. What makes it different from every other player photo pennant seen in this thread is the fact that mine is 30" long whereas all others seem to be 20" or 23". Mike Egner's book DOES mention a Mark Fidrych that is full sized... |
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Joe DiMaggio as a left handed batter..............
Obtained this pennant from a relative of Vic Raschi - Yankees pitcher with DiMaggio. Had been in a drawer for many years which explains it's mint condition. Jerry Sage PS - ooo-ribay - You Mays photo pennant is great. |
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All of the smaller ones are very rare and if this was made by Wincraft or a subsidiary, it wouldn't surprise me if they also made a larger one. Wincraft did make larger team photo pennants. The biggest problem is that a lot of these are almost one of a kind with little to compare with. Btw, the Mays pennant is awesome in any condition. |
I didn't see the part in your first thread about never having a photo. It would make sense that it originated in Minnesota, but the full size sure is strange as well as the original owner saying it never had a photo. Possibly some pre production piece that was never intended for sale
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Hey Mike...
Great catch on the Colt .45s also using that same Lefty Batter. That one slipped by everyone... Also... I never realized that Jay Leno had a mohawk, and played for Milwaukee in his younger years. I do love that pennant, but the artist's rendition of the "Screamng Brave" Mascot doesn't exactly strike fear in the competition :p |
He does have some Leno features for sure.
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Great jobs on the "lefty batter" examples!
Here's another motif I think they used for many, many teams. I personally never liked these pennants....which is probably why I never upgraded this example. :rolleyes: |
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Agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Those don't do much for me either.
Below are a few other rather generic series with motifs that were used by multiple teams. The last one pictured is by far the most common. There's also another series with a large Batter superimposed against a Baseball Diamond. Can't locate any images right now, and don't have time to upload mine. But it's a pretty cool set. |
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I couldn't resist this pennant for $17.31 on ebay :eek:. I already had an example but the strength of the 50 year color is amazing....plus, there is MORE color in the stadium than in my other example. Check out the cable car....how often do you see detail..."Municipal Railway"...like that?
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That one is from 1964. I know because my Dad came home from Candlestick Park, and gave that very one to my sister. I always liked it because of the Cable Car. Your Pennant is probably in nicer condition (after 50 years) than hers on Day 1. A beauty, especially for that price!
He brought me home the White One with the Batter, and my brother got the Black one with the Horizontal Bat and Ball (both of which are pictured on your wall). One of my clearest memories as a 5 year old kid! |
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A huge 1915 pennant, and three Cuban.
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Finally got around to taking some pictures of a few of my pennants.
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I noticed this thread needs more Pirates, this should help.
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Hi Rob .... Keezer was based in Plaistow, NH. They seemed to make pennants from the mid 50s to mid 60s. Only team pennants, none that are dated, none with scroll.
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Great Pirates Pennants :D Rob: Thanks for posting that pic. I guess the pennant doesn't look that extraordinary, but it's the quintessential SF Giants Pennant to me :p |
According to the pennant guide the Athletics is from about 1910. definitely Philly :) It is 3/4 sized with everything sewn on.
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I posted these pics in the Japanese baseball thread too.
1. Here's a pic of a display I did in the late 1990s of 1949 SF Seals Japan tour artifacts. The Seals players were so showered with gifts by their hosts that they had to rent a cargo plane to bring it all back. Sorry that the view of the pennant of the left side wall of the display is not good. Each player was given a customized pennant with his name sewn on, along with tour information. The silk flag/pennant on the main wall on top was attached to a car antenna in the parade that welcomed the players. 2. Pennant/Banner presented to Lefty O'Doul from the 1951 tour. Rough condition, but I'll take it...! |
^^^^^ that is one beautiful display! :D
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They're all pretty common, with this one probably being the toughest...
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The hats, the belts, the "dust", the creases in the uniforms, etc. Look at the Yankees and Dodgers next to each other. |
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Finally, I can spot all the nuances and subtle differences in that Red Sox Pennant ^^^^^^^^^ :rolleyes:
Always wondered why they decided on the grey graphics against red felt. Not exactly the definition of perfect contrast, but nice examples none-the-less! |
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This is not baseball, but this is another 3D pennant made by collegiate of ames who made the Giants, Yankees and Dodgers 3d pennants. I can recall seeing any others like it.
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I would say 1930's. I have seen some similar to that style from that mid to late 30's era. Might be a little newer, but not a whole lot.
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Adding to the Habana Lions previously shown...here are two more. I always liked the stitching and the manufacturer's tag. The SF Giants ceiling/wall display is terrific. Everybody has shown nice items. The Colt .45's really caught my eye. This is a fun thread!!
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Very cool Cuban Pennants. The embroidered graphics are awesome.
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A few more Oversized, to keep the thread going....
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Some seldom-seen Bums...
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Pre-curse Cubbies!
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Amazing stuff Mark!
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A pennant showing the highlights of the amusement park including the home baseball field. Following the incredible items, shown by perezfan, this is a very pedestrian offering.
Regarding the Cuban pennants...Thank you perezfan for the compliment. The other 3 team's pennants always seemed to be very scarce. I've never seen a Cienfuegos traditional style pennant. |
Mark, Love that 1932 Cubs one with early Mickey Mouse look.
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I completely agree with Mike. That 1932 is way cool. Never seen that one before. The other ones are great, but I always like to see new stuff. A couple of those Bums are tough too. Jason
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I just saw this pennant in the April Pickups thread. The Giants really cheaped out when they later won the NL Pennant. Maybe they would have produced something better if they'd have known it would be 27 years until their NEXT NL pennant...:rolleyes:
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would guess it was an outside the stadium vendor from back in the day who had left overs from the season and he stenciled the champs on the pennant.
Not a official Giants pennant. |
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