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frankbmd 10-19-2019 09:43 AM

The Bullpen Game & Don Larsen
 
Baseball analytics are changing the game. Not only are starting pitchers in danger of never winning a game by completing 5 innings, they also seem to be in shorter supply. Granted the playoff teams this year all seem to have two or three traditional starters, but few teams, if any, seem to have a reliable and healthy four or five man rotation. You don’t have to go back too many years to find examples of teams with four or even five starters with 30 or more starts in a season.

Now we are faced with a game 6 in the ALCS and, lo and behold, neither team is going to field a starter. If NY wins game 6, at least Game 7 will feature Cole and Severino as starters.

We are, like it or not, entering the era of the bullpen game. Does the trending change in pitcher usage continue? If it does, will starting pitchers become an extinct species? Will pitching to the same batter twice in one game become too risky? How many walks or hits will a pitcher be able to yield before getting the “quick hook”?

To forecast a return to the days of a Walter Johnson, a Warren Spahn or even a Nolan Ryan seems implausible. The complete game is nearly an anachronism already. Even the somewhat newer Quality Start is an endangered species. Will a bullpen no-no ever be equated with a “real” no-hitter? I hope not.

And yet, not so long ago, a rather pedestrian pitcher retired 27 batters in a row in a World Series game.

Tonight we may see a “bullpen game” by either team, in which 27 batters in a row are struck out. Not likely, or course, but it will never erase the accomplishment in Game 5 of the 1956 World Series by Don Larsen. Would it even be a footnote?:eek:

Peter_Spaeth 10-19-2019 10:18 AM

I haven't read up on it, but why isn't Miley pitching? Is he hurt?

clydepepper 10-19-2019 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1924742)
I haven't read up on it, but why isn't Miley pitching? Is he hurt?


September ERA - 16.68

steve B 10-19-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1924737)
Will a bullpen no-no ever be equated with a “real” no-hitter? I hope not.

They already are. There have been 14 combined no-hitters, most of them fairly recent.

frankbmd 10-19-2019 10:27 PM

Altuve was forced to hit the walk home run in the ninth, because in a bull pen game there is no bull pen left for extra innings.:D


Stay tuned for next week’s essay regarding the Blown Save Win.:eek:;)

SAllen2556 10-20-2019 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1924954)
Altuve was forced to hit the walk home run in the ninth, because in a bull pen game there is no bull pen left for extra innings.:D


Stay tuned for next week’s essay regarding the Blown Save Win.:eek:;)

Don Larson's game in 1956 took 2 hours and 6 minutes. Last night's 9 inning "bull pen" game took 4 hours and 9 minutes.

The reason there was no one left in the bullpens was because they all got bored and went home. Major league baseball is broken.

Peter_Spaeth 10-20-2019 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1924954)
Altuve was forced to hit the walk home run in the ninth, because in a bull pen game there is no bull pen left for extra innings.:D


Stay tuned for next week’s essay regarding the Blown Save Win.:eek:;)

I guess someone had to get the win but very undeserved.

frankbmd 10-20-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SAllen2556 (Post 1924981)
Don Larson's game in 1956 took 2 hours and 6 minutes. Last night's 9 inning "bull pen" game took 4 hours and 9 minutes.

The reason there was no one left in the bullpens was because they all got bored and went home. Major league baseball is broken.

I found the little mini-ads between batters captivating.:rolleyes:

JunkyJoe 10-21-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1924876)
I haven't read up on it, but why isn't Miley pitching? Is he hurt?

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Originally Posted by clydepepper (Post 1924877)
September ERA - 16.68

Just as I'd suspected ... I knew Miley Cyrus couldn't pitch! :D


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