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greenmonster66 03-05-2018 05:29 PM

Thoughts on this 500hr Piece
 
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What are all your thoughts on this piece? Thank you all!

daves_resale_shop 03-05-2018 05:31 PM

500 hr
 
I don't like them

Sophiedog 03-05-2018 05:36 PM

No Good.

thetruthisoutthere 03-05-2018 06:27 PM

That's a "Florida" set of forgeries.

They are mass-produced out of Florida.

Rocchi and Gorajczyk have that on their Facebook page.


https://www.facebook.com/pg/gfaauthentication/about/

greenmonster66 03-05-2018 06:32 PM

Wow, That very interesting! Have seen that company promote here in FL.

thetruthisoutthere 03-05-2018 08:06 PM

Below is a link to just one of my threads on the "Florida" forgeries and sellers.


https://live.autographmagazine.com/f...rged-autograph

thetruthisoutthere 03-05-2018 08:24 PM

One of the Florida sellers has a listing of the EXACT item. The "Florida" sellers have sold hundreds of them. None of them hand-signed.

I just realized it is the one posted by the OP.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-500...4AAOSwr21anJhl

thetruthisoutthere 03-05-2018 08:26 PM

From another Florida seller (Ebay seller Sportsology2016).


https://www.ebay.com/itm/500-Home-Ru...p2047675.l2557

greenmonster66 03-06-2018 06:46 AM

Crazy, why Ebay is not cracking down more on this crap!

RichardSimon 03-06-2018 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by greenmonster66 (Post 1754567)
Crazy, why Ebay is not cracking down more on this crap!

They could if they wanted to but cracking down on forgeries reduces their profits :mad::mad::mad:

Fuddjcal 03-06-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1754579)
They could if they wanted to but cracking down on forgeries reduces their profits :mad::mad::mad:

And I was about to make a come back too with the new PSA Quick Opinion tab on all the listings now:p. :D:D:D

Still, dopey sellers like the OP will go unchallenged by E-bay and their dopey buyers and will continue to sell complete disgusting garbage like this 500 HR Piece because people are too dopey and cheap to click on the PSA logo to tell them what they are about to buy is an easy to spot scam fraudulent forgery.

My "thoughts on this piece" are that it is a complete "piece" of S***. If you had any integrity whatsoever, you would stop selling this disgusting garbage.

bigfanNY 03-06-2018 09:52 AM

It is sad this exact same piece has been around for years I cringe when I see one in a sports bar. The blue auto black auto symmetry allows you to spot this a a fake from miles away. I am a novice Autograph collector who has always been a fan of 500 HR items and it sux to see so many frauds.
One way to avoid this is to put together modern cards that topps upper deck etc. Issued in packs of the 500 HR club. Except for first 3 Ruth Foxx Out, they are all easy to find.
That said I completely understand that the display value of the lithograph and the ball are powerful draws. Problem is thieves understand it too.

Kco 03-06-2018 10:12 AM

Mantle and Williams are the easy dead giveaways

Mr. Zipper 03-06-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Kco (Post 1754652)
Mantle and Williams are the easy dead giveaways

Many easy giveaways...

Including the fact that this brand of fakes are grainy second or third generation copies printed on inkjet paper.

thetruthisoutthere 03-06-2018 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper (Post 1754659)
Many easy giveaways...

Including the fact that this brand of fakes are grainy second or third generation copies printed on inkjet paper.

I purchased (from AtAuction and Ebay) about a dozen Mickey Mantle autographs "authenticated" by Stephen Rocchi and John Gorajczyk of Guaranteed Forensic Authenticators (GFA) and every image was produced on inkjet paper and not one of them was hand-signed.

I call it the Forensics Scam or Total Incompetence.

thetruthisoutthere 03-06-2018 05:42 PM

From another "Florida" seller.

As you can see, at the "Buy It Now" price, they are telling you they are forgeries.

The cost to produce it is under $5.00.


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-500....c100675.m4236

Fuddjcal 03-07-2018 10:23 AM

the whole retarded piece is a Dead Giveaway...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZcRU0Op5P4

thetruthisoutthere 03-07-2018 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by greenmonster66 (Post 1754421)
Wow, That very interesting! Have seen that company promote here in FL.

Neal, check out my below threads on GFA when you get a chance.


https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...-do-they-use-p

https://live.autographmagazine.com/p...1162296&page=2


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