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How Many Signed T206 Cards Exist?
A Net54 member recently asked me to estimate how many different signed T206 poses have been signed by their subjects and are currently in existence in someone's collection.
I own 39 different poses, if you count Mrs. Blanche McGraw and Mrs. Jane Mathewson on their husbands' respective cards, 37 otherwise: HOF 1. Clarke (Batting) 2. Crawford (Batting) 3. Crawford (Throwing) 4. Flick 5. Johnson (Pitching) 6. Marquard (Portrait) 7. Marquard (Hands at Sides) 8. Marquard (Throwing) 9. Wheat 10. Young (Portrait) FRONT SIGNED COMMONS 11. Barbeau 12. Carrigan 13. Doyle (Batting) 14. Doyle (Portrait) 15. Doyle (Throwing) 16. Jones (Davy) 17. Leach (Bending) 18. Leach (Portrait) 19. Leifield (Batting) 20. Leifield (Pitching) 21. McBride 22. Myers (Catching) 23. Meyers (Portrait) 24. Parent 25. Snodgrass (Batting) 26. Snodgrass (Catching) 27. Warhop BACK SIGNED COMMONS 28. Blackburne 29. Bridwell (Portrait Cap) 30. Bridwell (Portrait No Cap) 31. Fiene (Portrait) 32. Fiene (Throwing) 33. Hoblitzell 34. Knabe 35. Livingston 36. Myers (Batting) [Signed Front & Back] 37. Rucker (Portrait) In addition to these, I have seen scans of the following seven (7) additional poses from Jeff Morey's collection: 38. Bush 39. Cravath 40. Lajoie (Batting) 41. Lobert 42. Zimmerman 43. Wiltse (Portrait No Cap) 44. Rucker (Throwing) 45. Cobb (Green Portrait) And I have seen credible proof of the following 10 additional poses: 46. Cobb (Bat On) 47. Cicotte 48. Clarke (Portrait) 49. Walsh 50. Phillippe 51. Chance 52. Speaker 53. Bresnahan (Batting) So that's at least 53 different T206s signed by their subjects. I have heard claims about Stanage, Moriarty, and Schmidt signed poses from a Net54 collector, but I have never seen a scan so it is hard for me to credit the representation. Other respected collectors own T206s that they believe were signed by McGraw, Jennings, and Bender -- but none of these have been authenticated by JSA or PSA/DNA or another respected third-party authenticator. Renowned autograph dealer Phil Marks says that a bunch of signed T206 Bresnahans exist in private collections, but I have only seen the one batting pose on my website. I have never seen another, or the portrait pose. Also, Shaw and Pattee lived into the 1970s -- in fact Shaw was the 3rd-to-last T206er to pass away, survived only by Livingston and Marquard -- and should thus be reasonably possible. But, I've never seen a scan of either. So, I would guess conservatively that maybe 60 or so exist in total. I could buy into a more aggressive theory that maybe as many as 70 exist. But, I would bet the under on 75. Since the advent of scanned online auction images in the major auction houses over a decade ago there have been no other sightings than those listed here. Still, it is exciting to imagine what could be out there lurking in private collections. One famed collector of T206 cards once sent me an email to tell me that he owned about 25. But, he never responded to my follow-up email about which ones he had. If only all collectors of signed T206 cards would post scans of their treasures, the world would be a better place for us all. Please post here or email/message me if you know of any other signed T206 poses out there that I have missed out on seeing. And, as always, post any signed T206 cards that you'd like to share here. I'll post my most recent acquisition: <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/iqlrEhNek82S0xtQbjusIDiJm_Z5QsNdec5_I7WHZRE?feat=e mbedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-PSBddPXWNDw/USaOP7ouJhI/AAAAAAAAQ4w/vjqadWW4glw/s800/Bridwell_Signed_T206_w_Date.jpg" height="717" width="800" /></a> |
I have one, a front and back signed Davy Jones.
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Here are a couple of mine.
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I posted these in a separate thread about a month ago when I visited the Elliott Museum in Stuart Florida. All were displayed raw and probably haven't been authenticated. I cannot attest to their authenticity, but they are displayed in the museum's baseball gallery:Attachment 110027Attachment 110028Attachment 110029Attachment 110031Attachment 110032Attachment 110033Attachment 110034Attachment 110035Attachment 110036
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My one and only (just sold the strip card yesterday....)
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I don't have any, (never collected autos) but if I could pick the green Cobb might be the one.......that is if no wajo portrait signed exists. Dave.
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I suspect with the premium they sell for, we will be seeing more of them. I would be more curious how many submissions get rejected by JSA.
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I hope we do see more of them. Thanks again to Erick for sharing his photos of his Elliott Museum trip. Could all of those be real? Wow.
I have had JSA reject a few over the years that I thought were good, including a Bender, and a Cicotte, which just about broke my heart. But most of my collection comes from two sources, the Pittsburgh Find of 2007, and Jeff Morey's collection. Morey's were all certified good, of course, and the Pittsburgh Find was also more or less all good, except for a secretarial Covoleski. |
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PS: Too bad Doyle has never been elected to the HOF. He put up some good numbers! |
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FINALLY someone posted pics from that museum, thanks eric!
Isnt it weird though that they just have hofers? |
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I am a huge Larry Doyle fan. He was one of the best players of that era, and one of the most prolific signers of T206 cards.
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Thanks Jerry! The t206 signed Doyle I acquired earlier this year. By far my favorite T206 card! The other signed Doyle, the strip card, I just acquired last week as part of a trade for a Honus Wagner signed check I had. Although I think it is really neat, it just doesn't fit into my collection and I just got rid of it yesterday. That's awesome that you are a distant relative!
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Signed Cobb (Bat On)
I personally don’t own any, but I remember seeing a signed Cobb (Bat On) at a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comhttp://www.net54baseball.com/ /><st1...=3><FONT face=</O:p
Not sure if this is the same signed Cobb (Bat On) you already know exists, but thought I’d mention it just in case you don't already know about it. <O:p</O:p I would love to see that card again. <O:p</O:p Steve |
Thanks. There are a few signed T206s of Ty Cobb featured on my website in the "Signed T206 Wantlist" section. I separate the scans of signed T206s on my site between cards I own, and cards I want. Sadly, all of the Cobbs I have seen are in the "want" column and not the "own" column....
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T206 collector... You have, what I think, is the most impressive collection on this board (along with Ed's "Howe McCormick" stamped collection and the other member (?) that collects the extreme T206 freaks). Anyone with money can go out and buy expensive cards such as a Drum, or Lenox, or Old Mill Brown, or even a Plank or Wagner. But to narrow it down to something so unique, as you guys do, is truly somethng special. I absolutely never get tired of seeing yours and Ed's and the other member who collects the T206 freaks (?), cards. Thanks for always showing them!
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I've sent 3 to Ed myself I believe. In all instances telling Ed to send me something similar whenever he had a chacne to. Was indeed a good feeling helping him out. Karma. haha
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Jerry, I beleive (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that Larry Doyle and Rube Marquard were the 2 most prolific signers of T206 cards....
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