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Shoeless Moe 02-10-2014 01:47 PM

Did Babe Ruth ever pitch to Ty Cobb, Shoeless Joe?
 
Does anyone know? If so anyone know how they fared.

What a matchup that would have been.

and how valuable would a picture of that be?

guy3050 02-10-2014 01:53 PM

Here is how they did during the years in which Babe Ruth pitched against Ty Cobb.

1915 – Boston won the pennant; Detroit was second, 2 ½ games back. Cobb led the league in batting with .369. Ruth was 18-8. Against Ruth, Cobb was 5-for-13 for .385.

1916 – Boston won the pennant; Detroit was third, 4 games behind. Cobb’s .371 was second to Tris Speaker’s .386. Ruth was 23-12. Against Ruth’s pitching, Cobb was 8-for-25 for .320.

1917 – Chicago won the pennant. Boston was second, 9 games out. Detroit was fourth, 12 ½ games back. Cobb led the league in batting with .383. Ruth was 24-13, his victory total second only to Chicago’s Eddie Cicotte, who had 28. Against Ruth, Cobb was 8-for-22 for .367.

1918 – Boston won the pennant; Detroit was 7th. Cobb led the league with .382. Ruth was 13-7. He had now started playing the outfield when he wasn’t pitching. Cobb was 2-for-7 for .286 in only two confrontations with Ruth the pitcher.

1919 – Chicago won the pennant. Detroit was fourth. Boston was sixth. Cobb led the league in batting with .384. Ruth was 9-5. In three meetings, Cobb was 8-for-12 against Ruth for .667. This was the last year Ruth was used regularly as a pitcher.

1921 – New York won the pennant. Detroit was sixth. Cobb’s .389 average was second to his teammate Harry Heilmann’s .394. Ruth was 2-0 as a pitcher, his final victory coming against Detroit as Cobb went 1-for-5.

TOTALS – Ruth was 12-9 with 14 complete games against the Cobb-led Tigers over six seasons. Cobb’s .381 average against Ruth’s pitching was 14 points better than his lifetime mark.

Shoeless Moe 02-10-2014 02:15 PM

Wow
 
Very cool!

Great stuff, thank you!

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-10-2014 02:37 PM

Cool stuff. If I recall, Cobb had some not too nice things to say about Ruth as a pitcher and person in general.

tedzan 02-10-2014 02:58 PM

A definite read....it will answer all your questions regarding Ruth vs Cobb.

And, check-out the Appendix....it provides a game-by-game description of Cobb vs Ruth (May 1915 to Sept 1928).


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...obbandruth.jpg


TED Z

guy3050 02-10-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards (Post 1239629)
Cool stuff. If I recall, Cobb had some not too nice things to say about Ruth as a pitcher and person in general.

And Ruth had mixed feelings about Cobb

"(Ty) Cobb is a prick. But he sure can hit. God Almighty, that man can hit." - Babe Ruth

ls7plus 02-10-2014 04:47 PM

Absolutely fabulous stuff about two of the greatest whose stature, in stark contrast to many, only seems to grow ever larger with time!

Best,

Larry

brewing 02-10-2014 05:04 PM

This proves it. Cobb is better!!!!


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I Only Smoke 4 the Cards 02-10-2014 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brewing (Post 1239700)
This proves it. Cobb is better!!!!


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Shoeless Moe 02-10-2014 07:32 PM

....but both fruit!

jbbama 02-12-2014 12:43 PM

good book
 
its an interesting read.......Cobb had his way with Ruth

TUM301 02-12-2014 02:49 PM

Seem to recall reading Ruth pitching to Jackson in 1 of his 1`st, if not the 1`st game he pitched in Boston. Also remember something about an inside the park H R that day. Will double ck on both.

h2oya311 02-12-2014 04:25 PM

Wonder how Ruth would have faired batting against Cobb pitching. Then we'd know who was better!

Shoeless Moe 02-12-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 1240648)
Wonder how Ruth would have faired batting against Cobb pitching. Then we'd know who was better!

Cobb would have plunked him every time.

Buythatcard 02-12-2014 05:32 PM

Ted, thanks for posting that book. I never knew it existed. I must read it.

Leon 02-14-2014 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jbbama (Post 1240531)
its an interesting read.......Cobb had his way with Ruth

They seem rather friendly in this NY Times shot on a card...

http://luckeycards.com/ptunc1930stob...thandcobb2.jpg


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