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travrosty 04-03-2013 08:24 AM

How to sell an autograph without certification from abc and xyz co., and easy primer!
 
This will be a continuing blog with points 1-10, etc.

1. First, know the market. Let's say you have a nice Babe Ruth cut, you believe it to be real, but not quite sure, you don't want to be had for the 170 dollars or so the authentication companies will charge, pass or fail, and how do you know they know their stuff and it won't get failed even though it is good? Or vice versa? You are 170 in the hole either way for an autograph with a poor track record of authentication from these companies.

Well, first know your market. Ask around and read online and elsewhere first and foremost just how much a nice cut of Babe Ruth costs a collector. If it's 3 thousand dollars, then that's it. If it is 3500, then you are an informed seller. But figure it out, a range that decent Ruth cuts go for, so you know your target price you would be willing to accept.

more to come.......

Forever Young 04-03-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by travrosty (Post 1111873)
This will be a continuing blog with points 1-10, etc.

1. First, know the market. Let's say you have a nice Babe Ruth cut, you believe it to be real, but not quite sure, you don't want to be had for the 170 dollars or so the authentication companies will charge, pass or fail, and how do you know they know their stuff and it won't get failed even though it is good? Or vice versa? You are 170 in the hole either way for an autograph with a poor track record of authentication from these companies.

Well, first know your market. Ask around and read online and elsewhere first and foremost just how much a nice cut of Babe Ruth costs a collector. If it's 3 thousand dollars, then that's it. If it is 3500, then you are an informed seller. But figure it out, a range that decent Ruth cuts go for, so you know your target price you would be willing to accept.

more to come.......

Let me guess...#2). ???
To belittle the abc and xyz companies(BIGGEST, MOST SUCCESSFUL AND MOST RESPECTED) in effort to gain trust and respect from the buyer. If this is one of the 10, I would remove it from your business model as talking bad about the competion is a NO NO in business ethics 101.

"Talking bad about your competition will actually make you look bad. “Bad mouthing the competition puts your business ethics into question, and in the end taints your appeal to a prospective customer. In most cases, the potential customer already has some knowledge of businesses in the industry that provide both good and bad service, and if you are in the room discussing a possible deal, concentrate on outlining what your business can deliver and refrain from focusing on what the competition can not.”
-BlackBerry CEO Thorsten Heins-

travrosty 04-03-2013 09:36 AM

i dont have a business so what's this business model stuff? i can;t have an individual opinion? do you know an abc or xyz authentication co? show me their websites? how am i in competition?

most respected.... is on a sliding scale so that doesnt count. who is the most respected out of this trio? bad guy #1, bad guy#2. guy who fudges on his taxes? most respected is subjective, people might say guy who fudges might be most respected, but does he rise to the level of respect as a benchmark overall??

it's up to each individual to judge. i have my bar that is set and as far as authentication goes, they are playing limbo.

if abc, xyz was doing such a great job, there wouldnt be a need for this thread, would there? put people ask me about it regularly. why is that?

how is blackberry doing these days? have you ever seen the commercial "where's the beef" ooops, wendy's violated your golden rule. And please show me the good track record of babe ruth authentications by these abc, xyz companies. i only told the truth.

packs 04-03-2013 01:20 PM

I think the first thing you need to do is find out if a signature is authentic.

Mr. Zipper 04-03-2013 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by packs (Post 1112003)
I think the first thing you need to do is find out if a signature is authentic.

According to the expert writing the article, "Step 1" is to determine price range.

Perhaps authenticity is somewhere in 2 - 10 of this pulse pounding, edge-of-your-seat informational series.

Deertick 04-03-2013 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by travrosty (Post 1111919)
put people ask me about it regularly. why is that?

They are not asking you "how too", they are challenging your assertion that there is no price difference in selling TPA vs non-TPA. It is not a subtle difference. And your answer always seems to be "I sold one once that didn't make up the cost of authentication and I know more than them anyway. So that proves it."

I call B.S. on anyone asking you how to sell anything.

packs 04-03-2013 02:26 PM

I don't think there will be many buyers of a high dollar signature without proper authentication. You and I differ on what proper authentication is, but we should both agree you will never sell a high dollar signature like Ruth's without a major COA for what you would sell it with one. To say that's not the case is ignoring reality to prove a point to I don't know who.

Forever Young 04-03-2013 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 1112043)
I don't think there will be many buyers of a high dollar signature without proper authentication. You and I differ on what proper authentication is, but we should both agree you will never sell a high dollar signature like Ruth's without a major COA for what you would sell it with one. To say that's not the case is ignoring reality to prove a point to I don't know who.

"Ignoring reality" is about all there is to it. No further response needed. Well done.

packs 04-03-2013 02:35 PM

A major COA doesn't have to come from a company like JSA or PSA. For a lot of people a major auction house with a solid reputation's LOA is enough. You don't have to use JSA or PSA if you don't want to, but I think you will need to have your item authenticated in all cases if its a high dollar item.

mighty bombjack 04-03-2013 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by packs (Post 1112049)
A major COA doesn't have to come from a company like JSA or PSA. For a lot of people a major auction house with a solid reputation's LOA is enough. You don't have to use JSA or PSA if you don't want to, but I think you will need to have your item authenticated in all cases if its a high dollar item.

Agreed all around, and everyone wants a piece of the profit of your selling it.

markf31 04-04-2013 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travrosty (Post 1111919)
It's up to each individual to judge.

Exactly! You should follow your own statement a little there. It seems all you ever do with your posts is spew hatred and contempt in an attempt to influence others peoples individual judgement, with the purpose to serve your own vendettas.


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