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1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:02 PM

Help ID: 1930's Canadian Babe Ruth Premium?
 
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I have had this for several years now and would like to try to identify what it is and how it was issued.

Background
Several years back I purchased a very large 800-1000 page 1930's Canadian baseball scrapbook. The scrapbook had very large pages and included hundreds of skinned World Wide Gum cards, OPC cards, V94 OPC (Canadian Butterfinger) premiums, and thousands of unique newspaper clippings. Unfortunately, almost every single card was skinned, with the exception of a few 1937 OPC cards which were all cut out in funny shapes.

I enjoyed the scrapbook for a quite a time but it was large and tough to store - and very brittle. As the cards were in terrible shape, I popped several dozen off with some of the more unique clippings to frame. I also sold a few of the rarer cards and then sold the entire scrapbook to one collector a few years back. Of note, the entire scrapbook was from the Quebec area and there were a few non-newspaper clipping and non-card or known premium items that I also removed to keep. The Babe Ruth item below is one of these...

Item in Question
Not sure if it is a premium or some sort of poster or what, but the back is not peeled/skinned. The back is the same as a premium and has some glue residue and some pencil handwriting. On the front, the picture is a slight of blue/gray color and some misc pencil handwriting on the top/side. The item has been cut/trimmed but currently measures approximately 5.25" x 8.25". The thickness is about that of an index card or very slightly less...




So, any clue what the heck this is?

Thanks!

1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:04 PM

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To add, here are some photos of the scrapbook...

1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:07 PM

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And finally, here is what I did with some of the skinned cards and newspaper clippings that I liked (frames for the office).

The was one page that was a huge collage of WWG cards that I kept and framed in the one large frame. Very unique and I always liked the time that someone originally took to make this album!

1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:09 PM

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Other framed items...

1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:13 PM

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One other neat item I just found that I kept. Looks to be a Montreal Royals team shot, measures 4.5" x 9.5". Some sort of team portrait handout I guess as it has not been cut from anywhere and the back is glossy. I think I see Shag Shaughnessy in the back...

Leon 12-31-2017 05:37 PM

Don't recall seeing that Ruth swinging image. Maybe someone else will. Not quite sure what to make of it either. My first thought is usually, is it cut from some kind of larger ad? It's really too big to be a regular card or Exhibit card.

1treasuretrove 12-31-2017 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1734402)
Don't recall seeing that Ruth swinging image. Maybe someone else will. Not quite sure what to make of it either. My first thought is usually, is it cut from some kind of larger ad? It's really too big to be a regular card or Exhibit card.

The V94 OPC premiums from the same album measure 6.5 x 8.5, so the size seems like it would align with the other premium in the book issued in Canada. This is thicker than the V94s though. This was obviously a larger image but it doesn’t look heavily trimmed. I really have no idea what it is but regardless, I do like the image.

Chris Counts 12-31-2017 08:13 PM

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I've seen that image before on the cover of a book ...

1treasuretrove 01-01-2018 02:37 AM

Well now, based on the size and stock it could be a paper book cover. I wonder which book this one could be from.

doug.goodman 01-01-2018 02:35 PM

That scrapbook was great!

1treasuretrove 01-01-2018 03:35 PM

The back and stock resemble the Quaker Oats card. Given that the book above has a Quaker Oats ad on the back and a matching pose photo, I wonder if this was from something Quaker Oats ad-related in Canada?

This photo had previously bugged me for years and I put it away for a while only to have it bug me again now. I just would love to know where the heck it came from - book cover, ad, poster, premium...

tjb1952tjb 01-03-2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 1treasuretrove (Post 1734396)
One other neat item I just found that I kept. Looks to be a Montreal Royals team shot, measures 4.5" x 9.5". Some sort of team portrait handout I guess as it has not been cut from anywhere and the back is glossy. I think I see Shag Shaughnessy in the back...

Appears that the ballplayer seated far left may be missing his left leg??

baseball tourist 01-04-2018 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tjb1952tjb (Post 1735282)
Appears that the ballplayer seated far left may be missing his left leg??


Dark knee sock against the dark background of the bench and then tucked
Under the adjacent player’s outstretched leg.

JollyElm 01-04-2018 03:58 PM

Hey Treasure, can you post a larger version of that picture? I (along with everyone else viewing this thread, I'm sure) really want to figure out what in heck is going on with that disappearing extremity.

1treasuretrove 01-05-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1735524)
Hey Treasure, can you post a larger version of that picture? I (along with everyone else viewing this thread, I'm sure) really want to figure out what in heck is going on with that disappearing extremity.

Hey! Y'all are getting sidetracked, help me figure out what the Ruth is :)

No problem, I used the photo inserter from this site. Please see the direct photo below to see if it comes out any better...I never noticed the guy's leg before this discussion haha

https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/0/...77889570_o.jpg
https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/0/...77889580_o.jpg

1treasuretrove 01-05-2018 09:04 AM

To add, here is a better photo of the Ruth as well...

https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/0/...77889555_o.jpg
https://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/0/...77889564_o.jpg

JollyElm 01-05-2018 02:19 PM

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Sorry, Treasure, but you know what happens when you give a dog a bone. Hopefully we can end 'leg-gate' and return to our original programming. :)

The pic is coming across small, but I highlighted in red what I believe to be his vanishing leg. It's sorta going back under his chair, in a 'normal' sitting position. I think it is an optical illusion where his 'stub' is actually his knee (and area below it) kinda pointed at the viewer. The awkward look of his left hand adds a little credence to that theory. Heck, I could be completely wrong, but that's how I am seeing it.

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1treasuretrove 01-06-2018 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1735793)
Sorry, Treasure, but you know what happens when you give a dog a bone. Hopefully we can end 'leg-gate' and return to our original programming. :)

The pic is coming across small, but I highlighted in red what I believe to be his vanishing leg. It's sorta going back under his chair, in a 'normal' sitting position. I think it is an optical illusion where his 'stub' is actually his knee (and area below it) kinda pointed at the viewer. The awkward look of his left hand adds a little credence to that theory. Heck, I could be completely wrong, but that's how I am seeing it.

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When I look at it on my phone and on this message board, I still see it pretty large. It sure looks like he has only one leg...the white part of the pants is really high up and the foot behind him appears to be from the person standing in back. If that is the case, I've never heard any stories about this guy...

JollyElm 01-07-2018 02:30 AM

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Hey, your enlarged pic actually points out more clearly what I was trying to say. The most important feature to examine is the dark section of his left sock. If you follow the straight line of the seat bottom, you'll see it dips down and is curved (which is actually his dark sock crossing in front of it). That's because his lower leg is 'pointed' toward the back of his chair (and presumably resting on the cross bar). The guy directly behind him has white pants and shoes on. Those are easily distinguishable from the player in question's leg/shoe and they intersect just a tad. (The other players in back don't come into play.)

Pic 1: Normal.
Pic 2: Dark part of sock colored red.
Pic 3: Dark part of sock colored red, and corresponding parts of shoes, socks and whatnot are indicated.

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I think the main reason for the dilemma here is the dirt, scuffs, etc., to the right of his left hand and arm. That shadowing distorts the fact his knee is up, pointing out towards the viewer.

Stampsfan 01-07-2018 02:42 AM

The player on the far right, last row, looks like Charlie Sheen.

Now I know how he gets all his vintage memorabilia...


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