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1952boyntoncollector 08-17-2018 06:40 AM

1933 ebay Ruth take a chance
 
Someone 'bought' this card.

seller asked me to send him a pp gift at a good price....i passed..

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...rdt=true&rt=nc

luciobar1980 08-17-2018 08:30 AM

I don't get it. Aside from the useless pictures, what's the issue?

BLongley 08-17-2018 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 1804623)
I don't get it. Aside from the useless pictures, what's the issue?

It's a scam... maybe a fake PSA holder... the pic of the back is a completely different card, it's an older PSA label than the front picture...

1952boyntoncollector 08-17-2018 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by luciobar1980 (Post 1804623)
I don't get it. Aside from the useless pictures, what's the issue?

theres a seller out there is 100% feedback thats trying to get paypal gifts on a 1933 goudey ruth and who knows how much more that puts ads on ebay that net54 members may be trying to deal with.....

clydepepper 08-17-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1804634)
theres a seller out there is 100% feedback thats trying to get paypal gifts on a 1933 goudey ruth and who knows how much more that puts ads on ebay that net54 members may be trying to deal with.....



100% Feedback, yes...but I never deal with someone with as few (45) feedbacks as he does...certainly not for a 'big dollar' card.

There's enough clearly legit cards out there that anyone with half a brain should be able to avoid listings like the one the OP mentions.


...of course, if you do only have half a brain...go for it...P.T. Barnum

Yoda 08-17-2018 01:18 PM

For those who have read Conrad's "Heart of Darkness", perhaps the seller's user name, Col. Kurtz, might have been a small clue all was not kosher with this offering

chalupacollects 08-17-2018 02:50 PM

You might also notice on the front picture appears that something was whited out on the flip...

ruth-gehrig 08-17-2018 04:37 PM

So you "bought it"? Why else would he ask you for PayPal gift?

Throttlesteer 08-17-2018 05:02 PM

I certainly don't claim to know more than the other members on here. But the card looks legit to me. The flip checks out and there's even pictures of the card from a previous Heritage auction. His previous, positive feedback all seem to be vintage card related as well. I admit, the Paypal gift thing is a little wonky. But, I'm not convinced this is a scam.

Peter_Spaeth 08-17-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Throttlesteer (Post 1804782)
I certainly don't claim to know more than the other members on here. But the card looks legit to me. The flip checks out and there's even pictures of the card from a previous Heritage auction. His previous, positive feedback all seem to be vintage card related as well. I admit, the Paypal gift thing is a little wonky. But, I'm not convinced this is a scam.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...eritage-081514

Flip aligns differently in the Heritage one, no? And different back holder.

Peter_Spaeth 08-17-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1804717)
For those who have read Conrad's "Heart of Darkness", perhaps the seller's user name, Col. Kurtz, might have been a small clue all was not kosher with this offering

Indeed because Col. Kurtz, he dead.

JustinD 08-18-2018 04:43 PM

Unquestionably a fake card as it's in a fake holder.

I hope no one on this board has bought any of this crap. The Lou he just sold is obviously fake.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-Goudey...p2047675.l2557

1952boyntoncollector 08-18-2018 06:04 PM

He is offering to meet my friend for a cash deal...so nice of him..

JustinD 08-18-2018 06:41 PM

As it is misrepresentation and fraud for thousands, it may actually draw police interest. I would give them a call.

Peter_Spaeth 08-18-2018 07:10 PM

It's a shame ebay has no meaningful fraud reporting system.

deadballpaul 08-19-2018 08:44 AM

Gut instinct immediately said no. If you have been doing this long enough, its almost never wrong. The picture, lack of feedback, unknown seller, & even the description didn't feel right.

Leon 08-20-2018 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinD (Post 1805145)
As it is misrepresentation and fraud for thousands, it may actually draw police interest. I would give them a call.

Lately it seems police are rarely interested in our hobby on many occasions. It certainly doesn't hurt to call though. And your local PD is the best place to start as they are the ones to protect you first, from what I have been told.

Peter_Spaeth 08-20-2018 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1805834)
Lately it seems police are rarely interested in our hobby on many occasions. It certainly doesn't hurt to call though. And your local PD is the best place to start as they are the ones to protect you first, from what I have been told.

Didn't you have an ebay contact who was supposedly going to ramp up scrutiny of fraud?

Leon 08-20-2018 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1805841)
Didn't you have an ebay contact who was supposedly going to ramp up scrutiny of fraud?

Yes, but I haven't heard from him in a while. With ebay it seems their initiatives don't always keep going. They don't make money stopping fraud, as one authority once told me, and it's true.


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