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JollyElm 11-17-2018 04:15 PM

Certified, Qualified and Glorified!!!
 
The time has surely come for an appreciation thread featuring cards you have that came back from the graders with dreaded qualifiers, but don't bother you (nearly) at all. You love them and/or love the discounted price you paid for them!!!!

Post 'em if you got 'em...

The '61 Say Hey Kid just has a bit of snow while his '73 Mets card is barely a hair off from being properly centered. The Mantle has a tiny bit of wax near his face that could've been easily removed before it was submitted, but alas. The Rose is a puzzler for sure...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7923/...95832ef8_b.jpg

These 4 (including a trio of HOF southpaws) are all O/C, but if your OCD isn't too bad, they don't present much of a problem...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/...ae915516_b.jpg

sfh24 11-17-2018 08:05 PM

Is "OC" a standard designation now?

JollyElm 11-18-2018 02:45 AM

I'm pretty sure the O/C qualifier has been there since the beginning. I have a 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan in an ancient slab that's graded a PSA 6 OC. That one, let me tell you, is way off center and wouldn't deserve to be in this thread.

sfh24 11-18-2018 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1827856)
I'm pretty sure the O/C qualifier has been there since the beginning. I have a 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan in an ancient slab that's graded a PSA 6 OC. That one, let me tell you, is way off center and wouldn't deserve to be in this thread.

That was sarcasm. I have seen much worse come back with no OC than several of the cards pictured.

swarmee 11-18-2018 08:58 AM

It depends on the degree of offcenteredness and the straight grade the card is.
https://www.psacard.com/resources/gr...andards/#cards

Exhibitman 11-19-2018 04:31 PM

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...A%208%20oc.jpg

sfh24 11-19-2018 07:02 PM

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Unbelievable.

ajquigs 11-19-2018 08:31 PM

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I don't have many OCs, but I like this Mays. To me, the value of the qualifier is that you know this is essentially how the card came out of the pack - according to the eagle eyes of PSA at least. With a 7 (or whatever it would be without a qualifier) you have less information about the overall condition. Of course I would know the centering contributed to the grade, but I wouldn't know it's the only real flaw PSA found.

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JollyElm 01-12-2019 07:50 PM

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Thought I'd give this thread a bump with a couple of the all time great sluggers. Show 'em if you got 'em...

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jchcollins 01-13-2019 06:19 PM

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This one doesn't bother me in the least.

tjenkins 01-13-2019 10:44 PM

Here is one my favorites.
https://i.imgur.com/l6vRpy7.jpg

jchcollins 01-14-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tjenkins (Post 1845122)
Here is one my favorites.
https://i.imgur.com/l6vRpy7.jpg

Gorgeous color.

Sportscards1086 01-14-2019 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tjenkins (Post 1845122)
Here is one my favorites.
https://i.imgur.com/l6vRpy7.jpg

I've seen worse that don't have the OC.

??

I don't get get it...

BEAUTIFUL CARD!!!

jchcollins 01-14-2019 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportscards1086 (Post 1845184)
I've seen worse that don't have the OC.

??

I don't get get it...

BEAUTIFUL CARD!!!

The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.

Sportscards1086 01-14-2019 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 1845197)
The higher grade the card is notwithstanding the centering, the less tolerance there is for bad centering in terms of the grade. Does that make sense? For example a PSA 8 must be 65/35 to 70/30 centering or better on the front. If a card is otherwise an 8 but is centered 75/25 it's going to be a PSA 8 (OC). But when you get down to a card that is otherwise a PSA 5, the tolerance is only 85/15 on the front. So a card there that is 75/25 is going to be a straight 5 without the qualifer.

Thank you for that. Had no idea. Good info.

jchcollins 01-14-2019 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sportscards1086 (Post 1845208)
Thank you for that. Had no idea. Good info.

Yeah it's still subjective (you will see cards often centered outside the standard on the back, for example - but they still get a higher grade...) but the idea is that if a card is really high end, the centering must be very good as well.

This kind of thing drives me nuts when people online are arguing over why this or that vintage card got a PSA 3 or 2, and someone will chime in "Look! It's way off-centered on the back...that's why!!!" Well yeah, it's O/C on the back, but who cares? That is virtually never the reason that a card in lower grade already gets downgraded further. As if the card would have been a PSA 5 if not for the centering on the back...when often the card in question already has a crease or 3 shot corners or something.

JollyElm 03-19-2019 05:26 PM

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It may be a bit of 'qualifier overkill,' since I've posted these elsewhere, but what the hey...

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HRBAKER 03-20-2019 01:19 AM

This one has a small wax stain from the wrapper on the blank back. Doesn't bother me too much.

https://i152.photobucket.com/albums/...psjgnyvec5.jpg

JollyElm 03-20-2019 04:38 AM

Suh-weet!!!!!

jchcollins 03-20-2019 01:20 PM

(No longer) graded, but certainly could be qualified. Love it regardless, the surface and color are killer.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9708084296.jpg


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a761506 03-20-2019 10:18 PM

https://caimages.collectors.com/psai...6-Cobb-9OC.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...ohnson-8OC.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...Wagner-9OC.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...hewson-8OC.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...anella-8OC.jpghttps://caimages.collectors.com/psai...Dickey-8MC.jpg

GasHouseGang 03-21-2019 03:38 PM

Wow Josh! Those are tough to find in good shape. Iíd be really happy with those even with the qualifiers.

JollyElm 04-10-2019 05:41 PM

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This one is obviously more about the back than the front...

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...and it don't bother me none. :cool:

olecow 04-26-2019 07:02 AM

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The marker on the back of this card doesnít bother me at all. In fact, I can picture an 8 year old boy sitting in his room in 1956 writing the uniform numbers of his heroes on the back of their cards. I have no idea if thatís the case, but itís my story and Iím sticking to it.

MikeGarcia 04-26-2019 10:53 AM

My Kin Hubbard Card
 
[IMG]http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...GEHRIG_NEW.JPG[/IMG]


... "There ain't no disgrace in bein' poor......( pause , pace the stage ) might as well be , though".

..the grader could have stopped at the "1".....adding the qualifier was juss piling on and showin' off....I figure he was mad because he couldn't read the back ( it's half in French.).....merde....

..

JollyElm 06-10-2019 05:09 PM

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A couple more big names that don't look so bad...

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JollyElm 06-19-2019 07:46 PM

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Don't collect the 1970 FB set, but I couldn't pass up either of these HOF'ers, who don't even come close to what I would deem O/C...

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jchcollins 06-26-2019 09:27 AM

Technically this is out of line since itís not graded, but this would probably get some kind of qualifier. I donít know though - it could be a straight 6. Normally 80/20 centering range or worse I stay away from, but for some reason this one has never bothered me. Maybe because the Ď62 borders are a bit duller - I just donít really notice them. The pic is killer with nice color and a crispy image:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...0181a44bed.jpg


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whitehse 06-27-2019 08:34 PM

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The marker on the back of this card doesnít bother me at all. In fact, I can picture an 8 year old boy sitting in his room in 1956 writing the uniform numbers of his heroes on the back of their cards. I have no idea if thatís the case, but itís my story and Iím sticking to it.

Hey Mike,

I wonder if the same 8 year old kid owned both of our cards....

jchcollins 07-02-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 1827752)
These 4 (including a trio of HOF southpaws) are all O/C, but if your OCD isn't too bad, they don't present much of a problem...
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7806/...ae915516_b.jpg

That '72 Lefty Traded is ridiculous, btw. I have one centered about the same that was a straight PSA 8.

jchcollins 07-05-2019 02:16 PM

Certified, Qualified and Glorified!!!
 
I don't know if I overpaid, but this was roughly 20% the VCP on a straight 9.

-John
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JollyElm 07-09-2019 08:02 PM

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A pair of 1961 Topps...

The virtually flawless #485 Banks MVP is featured in the "Grading Has Clouded Our Minds" thread, and the tough #531 Coates high number has a little too much black/gray here and there (most visibly in the yellow area) for PSA's liking. Really nothing very noticeable, so I'm happy to have grabbed it...

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lowpopper 07-14-2019 09:58 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/rl0AA...lN/s-l1600.jpg

lowpopper 07-14-2019 09:59 PM

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ajoAA...S4/s-l1600.jpg

jchcollins 07-15-2019 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by lowpopper (Post 1899024)



Wow, whatever. Thatís a great looking card!


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eliteco3 07-16-2019 10:02 PM

amazing stuff man. Not sure how some of these got OC qualifiers

JollyElm 08-19-2019 09:14 PM

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This is a companion piece to the 1973 Willie Mays at the beginning of this thread...

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Two of the three true all-time HR leaders. When I see a beautiful card like this, the OC qualifier stands for "OF COURSE I need to grab it!!!"

JollyElm 09-06-2019 06:35 PM

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Grabbed this Mantle at a huuuuuge discount (as compared to a straight 7) and it really doesn't look too bad to me, as it isn't mind-blowingly off kilter. You could even argue that the OC qualifier is a result of the back centering...

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JollyElm 09-14-2019 03:41 PM

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Two all-time greats from 1972 with sharp as heck corners, but just a smidge off side to side...

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