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Archive 05-14-2008 07:27 PM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p><P>I don't chime in on the PSA bashing threads because of what momma always told me...</P><P>However I do take note and because of PSA's reputation, cards like this one really scare the crap out of me..</P><P><STRONG><A href="http://tinyurl.com/5r68o2">http://tinyurl.com/5r68o2</A></STRONG></P><P>If it were truly undergraded, why doesn't the seller simply crack and resubmit it or send to SGC.&nbsp; </P><br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

Archive 05-14-2008 07:47 PM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>it could be neither. It could be fairly graded and not trimmed.

Archive 05-15-2008 03:42 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Marty Ogelvie</b><p>Of course it could be valid and likely is.&nbsp; I just get spooked when I see such cards. I wonder how much of a ding PSA sellers get because of this poor rep, especially in the pre-war market.<br><br>martyOgelvie<br />nyyankeecards.com

Archive 05-15-2008 06:35 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Could have a small wrinkle.<br /><br /><br />Steve

Archive 05-15-2008 07:13 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Eric Brehm</b><p>I think Steve is probably right. In my experience, cards graded EX 5 that appear sharp enough at arm's length for a higher grade have some small flaw that is difficult to detect, such as a small wrinkle or bit of paper loss. As the seller points out, the centering isn't bad enough, in and of itself, to preclude a NM rating. Seeing a larger scan of the card might help.

Archive 05-15-2008 07:18 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...one has to consider with a scan such as this is how bright the scan is. The Cobb is a bit washed out because of the brightness of the scan. This kind of scan will usually hide imperfections. For example, a scan that is too bright might hide a wrinkle since the way most of us can see a wrinkle is because of how the light reflects over the surface of the card -- the reflection is broken up by the wrinkle. A really bright scan would conceal that, as well as other flaws like toning and staining and paper loss.<br /><br />When I buy mine online, I prefer my PSA 5/SGC 60s to have a bit of visible corner wear because I prefer that to the sharp cornered cards with minor wrinkles.<br /><br /><br><br>_ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ <u> </u> _ _ <br /><br />Visit <a href="http://www.t206collector.com" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206collector.com</a> to see signed pre-war card galleries, articles, my blog, my collection and more!

Archive 05-15-2008 09:08 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>Red</b><p>A lot of the sellers giving away undergraded cards have Chrematophobia. If they submit the card for the upgrade it will only make their problem worse.

Archive 05-15-2008 09:31 AM

Truly undergraded or trimmed?
 
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Hard to tell from the scan, but nothing problematic immediately jumps out at me. I agree with Eric. If the corners are as sharp as they seem, there is probably some other minor imperfection.<br />JimB


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