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Marchillo 05-15-2017 08:04 AM

GA / GAI / Envoy Collectables
 
Wanted to get some more feedback on these companies. First off GAI. I used them about 13 years ago to cross authenticate a Ted Williams ball I won at a silent auction that I was skeptical about. A Tom Brady mini helmet that I got from Rich Altman which I felt good about and a Hank Aaron ball that I got from QVC maybe 20-25 years ago that I felt good about (until just recently).

Williams didn't pass
Brady and Aaron did

So I thought they were good but then all the stories came out. I want to say this was around 2003/2004. Plus I've read that QVC stuff had some fakes so that gets me thinking.

Recently I got an Edelman mini with a GA holo. I've seen forums where Sipe says that those are 100% legit because they were involved with signings with JE11 and Gronk. Thoughts on what I've written so far? Should I feel concerned about the Aaron/JE11. I feel good about the Brady still but since the only holo that is the GAI should I get another on it? There is no holo from Altman.

Anyone know anything about Envoy? They have a bunch of stuff I'm looking at for very good prices. I emailed them on a specific player and they confirmed they worked with them.

Some of these players are pretty low end and I don't see the upside of forging some of these to make a $10 profit.

Anyone with info on Envoy.

For the most part I get this stuff in person or with PSA or JSA. These are a couple of the few exceptions.

Thanks - Steve

drcy 05-15-2017 02:09 PM

The early days of GAI were different than the later. They ruined their reputation later on, but in the early days there were reputable

Marchillo 05-15-2017 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drcy (Post 1661627)
The early days of GAI were different than the later. They ruined their reputation later on, but in the early days there were reputable

So would you say in the 2003-2005 range they were reputable? The funny thing is I bought the Williams at an auction for charity at Mohegan Sun Casino. But I didn't feel right about the item. So I brought two items I thought were legit and they came back as expected. At that same auction a Ruth/Gehrig dual autograph ball was deemed unlikely genuine when the guy who bought it tried to get it insured.

I thought GA was supposed to be better but seems like a lot of stuff is popping up on them.

drcy 05-16-2017 12:18 AM

Mike Gutierrez left GAI for PSA/DNA in 2005, and GAI autographs under his watch was the good time.

yankeesjetsfan 05-16-2017 08:25 AM

I always got a kick that his name is the same as mine.

Mike

perezfan 05-16-2017 11:28 AM

Agree that Global was reputable during the 2003-05 time frame. As for more modern times... if you do your homework, you can draw your own conclusions.

drcy 05-16-2017 12:10 PM

A GAI COA or LOA from the Gutierrez era should have his name on it--- but, if you are accurate in the 2003-4 time frame, Gutierrez was the head of authentication.


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