Help with a teddy ballgame
 

So a friend shared with me a mid 40's ted that he believes got the thumbs down here on the board (can't find the thread). I have a vet similar exemplar, which quite frankly I thought to be real, but perhaps I am mistaken... The medium just seems off for a clubby/secretarial signature to me...

Could I get your thoughts on this pair?

Many thanks!
Dave

And here is the other
 

The other:

I don't like the W on it. Saw a similar ball yesterday in Mansfield, but was on a newer ball, so maybe they r all good? I still think its off..

Ted
 

on the top one or both? The top one looks a little slower IMO, but both have that interesting hinge... I have found some authenticated balls from the same 46-49 time period, with that hinge like start, but the lines on the w were much sharper...

Any other opinions?

well. don't think i had hinge if I recall, but W was same and no connection either, plus it was on a newer IL ball.I don't know. seems odd too that the two you pictured would both be secretarial, as older signatures. What we4 do know, as you can attest, is a lot of Ted Variations over the years

Any other opinions?
 

Came across this one in a mears auction tha carried a jsa cert...

Looks to have strikingly similar characteristics... Any thoughts?

Yes, it does look the same. I guess it depends on how much confidence one has in JSA?