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T206 Reference / Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc..and, let's get your inputs
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https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...fdBaker12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...dWillis12x.jpg Nov 2006, Barry Sloate informed me that he had acquired a T206 collection including 300 cards with Sovereign backs. These cards would be in his November auction. I won 262 of these cards (including 38 HOFers). Having 60 - Sovereign cards to start with, I was determined to complete this set. I do not need the "Big 6", nor Lundgren, nor the Southern Leaguers (48 cards), I thought this project would be easy. However, early in this game I realized that the big challenge would be to figure out which subjects were Not Printed with Sovereign backs. By the Fall of 2007, I had completed this Sovereign set....and, I was confident that I had figured out which T206's were not printed with Sovereign backs. And, I am happy to say that my list of No-Prints have withstood the test of time. A complete SOVEREIGN-only set comprises of 402 different subjects. And, if you are really "gung ho"....go for a master SOVEREIGN set comprising of 476 cards. During the Sovereign press runs, American Litho (ALC) introduced a new feature into the T206's....the 350/460 series. ALC selected from the 350-only series 6 subjects **. And, printed them with Sovereign 460 backs during the printing of the 460-only series (46 subjects). Note that the Sovereign 460 versions of these 6 subjects are considerably tougher to find relative to the regular 46 subjects in the 460-only series. Shown here are the Six Super-Prints with their SOVEREIGN 350 backs and their SOVEREIGN 460 backs...... http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx50.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obbSGCx50b.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...RedCobb25x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ign350x25b.jpg ------- https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...gn350x25bk.jpg https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...gn350x25xx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...cematty25x.jpg............http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ematty25xy.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...verssov460.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...luechasedk.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...asedkcap_1.jpg The 350/460 story continues in the following post with a complete array display of the 66 subjects (with Sovereign 350 backs) which ALC designated for the 350/460 series. ** Note.. Scot Reader's excellent research revealed that these 6 subjects were printed in larger quantities, and with more Tobacco brands than any of the other subjects in the T206 set. In his book titled "Inside T206", Scot identifies these 6 guys as the " Super-Prints ". TED Z . |
This thread has become historic on our forum over time. Nicely done, Ted. Thanks for sharing!!
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SOVEREIGN phantom "350/460" series
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ereign12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpg<<http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpg>>http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eetCap12xx.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg Continuing from post #2, illustrated here are the 66 subjects that American Lithographic selected for the 350/460 series. American Litho printed the backs of these 66 cards using an apple green colored ink (instead of the deep green seen on the backs of all the other SOVEREIGN cards). For more info on this topic, check-out this thread posted in 2009....Sovereign phantom "350/460" series Here is my concept of a 72-card sheet arrangement of these 66 subjects (Super-Prints are double-printed **) http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...gn350x25bx.jpg v.................................... Six super-prints ....................................v http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erprints9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obConDav9x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...erprints9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yLDoyElb9x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raDouDow9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...osLajLak9x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...MurpNich9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...aMcInMul9x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lPfeReul9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eySnoSta9x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...trCYoSte9x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lWillWhi9x.jpg The next two posts will get more into the "nitty-gritty" of this mystifying 350/460 series......especially regarding their front/back combos. ** Note I show the super-prints Double-Printed (D-P) on this sheet, since several large T206 surveys have indicated that the 6 super-prints were D-P. TED Z . |
T206 Reference.....Reflections, Theory's, Surveys, etc....and, let's get your inputs
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...gsSGC60x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg 350/460 series subjects A picture is worth 1000 words......so, here are the 22 tobacco advertisement backs that are available on the T206 Subjects in the 350/460 Series...... 460-type backs http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...series25xx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...factory42b.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LENOXx37_1.jpg ............. Factory #42 ............. 350-type backs http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DRUMx25b_1.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CxSC350x25.jpg Assorted backs http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Tolstoi25x.jpg Stay tuned for the "rhyme-n-reason" of the mutually-exclusive front/back combos found with the 460-type backs in this 350/460 series. TED Z . |
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Thanks, I really appreciate your compliments, Leon. TED Z . |
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Very cool Ted...It's awesome to see so many of your t's in a bunch! This is the best I can do for now...a few odd remaining t's!
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T206 Reference....Reflections, Theory's......350/460 series mutually-exclusive cards
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http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...vereign12x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CobbSGCx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yab350x19x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...raphicbldg.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...edHINDUx12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...gsSGC60x12.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eign350x13.jpg 350/460 series subjects Now, continuing our study of the 63 subjects in the 350/460 series.....although 22 T-brands were illustrated in the previous post, not all the 63 subjects were printed with the rare AMERICAN BEAUTY 460, BROAD LEAF 460, Red HINDU, and UZIT backs. A theory was first presented in a thread posted April 2010 which hypothesized that the AB 460 and UZIT cards were printed as pairs. Also, BL 460 and red HINDU cards were printed as pairs. Furthermore, these two sets of pairs are mutually exclusive. Refer to.... 350/460 mutually-exclusive cards ....post #14. I've constructed the following scans of the 350/460 series subjects in order to illustrate how the mutually-exclusive 460-type (rare) backs in this series resulted from American Lithographic separating these 63 subjects into two print groups. Group A of the 350/460 series includes 35 subjects printed and issued with these four 460-type backs (circa..late 1910 > early 1911). http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tCap460x25.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tCap460x42.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan77/images/rh.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eaf460back.jpg Factory #25 VA ......................... Factory#42 N.C. Conversely, these 35 subjects were NOT PRINTED with.... AMERICAN BEAUTY 460....UZIT Group A .http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...1cards25xx.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...14cards14x.jpg ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Group B http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...14cards13x.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...14cards13x.jpg Group B of the 350/460 series includes 28 subjects printed and issued with these two 460-type backs (circa..Feb-Mar 1911). http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...auty460b34.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...loveUZITxb.jpg Conversely, these 28 subjects were NOT PRINTED with.. SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 25.. SWEET CAPORAL 460 Factory 42.. red HINDU.. BROAD LEAF 460 Refer to post #5 in this thread which displays a T206 collection of 33 different "scrap subjects" coinciding with the cards of Group A shown above...... ....why certain T-brands are mutually-exclusive Stay tuned for the next Reference or Reflections. New topic....I'll surprise you ? TED Z . |
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Hey Pete Thanks for the "awesome"....it's one of my favorite adjectives. Judging from your scan, we both collect similar pieces of colorful cardboard (besides BB cards). Take care......hope to see you at the National this summer. TED Z . |
Good stuff Ted. Here's a snippet from one of my favorite T206 discovery threads. It was a 2008 thread--started by you--where what I call the "southern league paradox" was resolved collectively by the Net54 research community. Jamie Hull was a major contributor.
Scot http://www.network54.com/Forum/15365...ern+Leaguers+- I'll link a few more of my favorite T206 discovery threads later. |
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