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toyman55 03-29-2012 12:20 AM

babe ruth - just found for sale.. is it real?
 
I have a chance to grab this if it is real. no coa

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David Atkatz 03-29-2012 12:54 AM

What's the magic word?

henson1855 03-29-2012 06:13 AM

Something is fishy.http://www.buy.com/prod/signed-babe-...223226729.html

travrosty 03-29-2012 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz (Post 979588)
What's the magic word?



IF

David Atkatz 03-29-2012 06:29 AM

The magic word is "please."

mschwade 03-29-2012 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henson1855 (Post 979613)

What's fishy about it? That Brent has it listed on eBay and Buy.com? Brent is a good dealer to work with, he submits everything to PSA/DNA and also has a lot of live signings. He probably put it on both sites to bring more exposure to the ball.

I won't speak to the Ruth or Aaron signatures, but for the ball itself, Frick was NL President from 1934-1951, so it fits the period of when Ruth could have signed it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Babe-Ruth-Ha...item519b2c14a8

scooter729 03-29-2012 06:46 AM

How can we be sure that's the same Babe Ruth signature? :D

henson1855 03-29-2012 06:49 AM

The OP posts an image of a Ruth ball he is asking for opinions on authenticity,the photo he posted is the same image that is easily found by Googling images of Babe Ruth autographed balls. When you click on the the said image, you can then click on to the website associated with the image. That website is the auction of the ball that I posted the link to.The OP states there is no coa,yet the auction link states that there is and even lists the cert #,that's what I was refering to as fishy,not the seller of the ball.

toyman55 03-29-2012 07:40 AM

not on ebay
 
Actually I found this autograph on craigslist last night.

also, it would be great if you could please help me in my decision to buy it if it is real.

I am getting the feeling from most here that it is a fake but what is it that bothers you.

thanks again.

scooter729 03-29-2012 07:44 AM

If you found it on Craigslist, you likely should run away. The seller easily could be a scammer who stole the image off of eBay and is trying to make a quick buck in a scam.

Unless you're in the Mill Creek, Washington area, where the eBay seller (whom I would trust) is located and likely has the ball....

toyman55 03-29-2012 07:49 AM

craigslist in sacramento
 
Holy fraud baseball guys, this guy is trying to sell something he doesn't have on craigslist.

You are right it is on ebay. here is the add I found on craigslist

http://sacramento.craigslist.org/clt/2928289710.html

mschwade 03-29-2012 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henson1855 (Post 979623)
The OP posts an image of a Ruth ball he is asking for opinions on authenticity,the photo he posted is the same image that is easily found by Googling images of Babe Ruth autographed balls. When you click on the the said image, you can then click on to the website associated with the image. That website is the auction of the ball that I posted the link to.The OP states there is no coa,yet the auction link states that there is and even lists the cert #,that's what I was refering to as fishy,not the seller of the ball.

Now I am following... Thanks for clearing it up!

drc 03-29-2012 05:20 PM

All I can add is that Mill Creek Sports is a reputable dealer and has been in business for years.

travrosty 03-29-2012 09:59 PM

Some people advertise things for sale that they don't have.

They will put it at a higher price than a place they know they can buy it from.

then when you agree to the higher price, they buy it from their source, then sell it to you at the higher agreed upon price, and take the mark up and put it in their pocket.

Some people get permission to do this from the original seller, and maybe even have it dropshipped from the original seller, but some people don't, they just appropriate the image and pretend they own it in house without permission from the original owner.

it's not right, but people do it all the time.

scooter729 03-30-2012 07:03 AM

Travis, I think this was a case of purely being a scam. The Craigslist ad just stole an image off the Internet and likely was trying to get someone to pay $400 via PayPal with the hopes of getting a Ruth ball.

I certainly understand about your theory / model, but this doesn't appear to be any more than another dirty scammer at work.

Leon 03-30-2012 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travrosty (Post 979756)
Some people advertise things for sale that they don't have.

They will put it at a higher price than a place they know they can buy it from.

then when you agree to the higher price, they buy it from their source, then sell it to you at the higher agreed upon price, and take the mark up and put it in their pocket.

Some people get permission to do this from the original seller, and maybe even have it dropshipped from the original seller, but some people don't, they just appropriate the image and pretend they own it in house without permission from the original owner.

it's not right, but people do it all the time.


We actually had this happen on the board once. A member took a well known west coast Dealers list of items he was selling and posted it on this board for sale (from the member posting it). Once we found out about it, very quickly I might add, it was nipped in the bud. People shouldn't be trying to sell stuff they don't own and/or without the permission of who does own it. It's just wrong.


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