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Spartan833 08-18-2015 11:21 PM

Ruth on Barnard ball
 
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I am mainly a hockey and soccer guy, but in my searching, I came across this ball. I have no experience with Ruth autos, any opinions?

Thanks for your time.

Added a side panel photo...is the Gehrig a secretarial also?

khkco4bls 08-19-2015 08:14 AM

Real IMO.

RelicSports 08-19-2015 09:06 AM

That looks like a typical secretarial to me...

ATP 08-19-2015 09:09 AM

Sorry. Looks like a "Clubhouse" signature of Ruth, this style is seen around 1928-1929 on a lot of Yankees team balls.

David Atkatz 08-19-2015 09:24 AM

Jeff is quite correct. It is a well-known clubhouse signature, used quite a bit in the late twenties. Many otherwise wonderful 1927 balls bear this signature.

Spartan833 08-19-2015 09:31 AM

Thank you for the replies. How about the Gehrig on the side panel? Also a "clubhouse"?

ATP 08-19-2015 10:28 AM

You will typically get the best, and fastest responses, if you show the whole ball initially :-)

Spartan833 08-19-2015 10:45 AM

My apologies! I understand, however, I didn't have the other photo until after it was posted.

Bpm0014 08-19-2015 01:03 PM

Ruth 100% fake. It's a period secretarial with some value actually. It's not a forgery, but rather secretarial.....

khkco4bls 08-19-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by khkco4bls (Post 1443877)
Real IMO.

WOW. I suck at this..

David Atkatz 08-19-2015 04:17 PM

The Gehrig is genuine.

ATP 08-19-2015 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan833 (Post 1443818)
I am mainly a hockey and soccer guy, but in my searching, I came across this ball. I have no experience with Ruth autos, any opinions?

Thanks for your time.

Added a side panel photo...is the Gehrig a secretarial also?

From my experience, you don't really see Gehrig clubhouse signatures from the 1927-1929 era. I believe I may have saw one that was supposed to be a clubhouse Gehrig on an authentic team ball but it didn't even look close. Later in life you have to contend with wife signed items. This Gehrig looks like it should from circa 1928. There is still some good value in that ball, even though the Ruth is clubhouse, and depending on who else is on it.

David Atkatz 08-19-2015 04:58 PM

Jeff is quite correct again. That's a c. 1928-1929 Gehrig.

Runscott 08-19-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by khkco4bls (Post 1444043)
WOW. I suck at this..

This is a great thread. You've probably just seen a similar 'Ruth' signature on other genuine Yankee team balls, so it looked familiar.

Spartan833 08-19-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ATP (Post 1444074)
From my experience, you don't really see Gehrig clubhouse signatures from the 1927-1929 era. I believe I may have saw one that was supposed to be a clubhouse Gehrig on an authentic team ball but it didn't even look close. Later in life you have to contend with wife signed items. This Gehrig looks like it should from circa 1928. There is still some good value in that ball, even though the Ruth is clubhouse, and depending on who else is on it.

Thanks for the replies everyone, I really appreciate the education! Those are the only two signatures on the ball.


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