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tedzan 09-26-2018 10:55 PM

1949 LEAF BB set re-visited....show us your cards
 
The 1949 LEAF's aren't the most pretty looking cards in the hobby, but there is a certain appeal to them. Anyhow, I have quite a sentimental attachment
to these cards, as they were my first colorized BB cards I collected when I was a kid. I still remember opening a pack and finding a Babe Ruth card. They
were great for flipping, or scaling with your buddies. I still have my original 49-card set from my youth. Never saw any of the 2nd series (49 cards) in our
neighborhood in Hillside, NJ. These so-called Short-Prints were distributed only to Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio.

I'll start this show with my two favorites. Looking forward to seeing your 1949 LEAF cards.


1st Series.....issued March 1949 (last card of Joe D in a major set)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DiMaggio50.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iMaggio50b.jpg




2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949 (1st card of Paige in a major set)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg




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guy3050 09-27-2018 07:10 AM

Here's mine , and in my opinion they are some of the prettiest post war cards

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4771/...7625a33e_c.jpgIMG_1866 by Guy Bourque, on Flickr

bobsbbcards 09-27-2018 08:04 AM

http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/ba...af032Spahn.jpg

dplath 09-27-2018 09:18 AM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...dd87fcf091.png


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nat 09-27-2018 10:13 AM

I don't have any scans handy, but this is my all-time favorite set. I love it that they look like Andy Warhol was making baseball cards. (And in 1949! Those folks at Leaf were way ahead of the time.)

steve B 09-27-2018 10:40 AM

One of my favorite sets. Cool looking, and loads of varieties far beyond what's cataloged.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3315

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=3316

Puckettfan 09-27-2018 11:58 AM

Here are mine
 
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Some of my favorites of the cards in my PC. PSA has them labeled as 48s :p

CW 09-27-2018 02:56 PM

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When I first got back into collecting, around 1998, these cards did not do much for me. Over time, though, I have learned to appreciate their unique beauty. The set is definitely an acquired taste, and I like the challenge of finding the odd color variation or perfectly registered HOFers.
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Originally Posted by nat (Post 1815778)
I don't have any scans handy, but this is my all-time favorite set. I love it that they look like Andy Warhol was making baseball cards. (And in 1949! Those folks at Leaf were way ahead of the time.)

I agree with the Warhol comparison. Years ago I made this "sig" to put after my posts on some of the forums, and it was inspired by the classic Warhol silkscreens for which he was known.

clydepepper 09-27-2018 05:06 PM

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In general, I'm not a fan of this issue as many of the images are blurred or otherwise inferior to all other sets...see the Newhouser scan posted as an example.

My two do not suffer from that problem, nor did the Musial RC I sold recently.


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Stonepony 09-27-2018 07:09 PM

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irv 09-27-2018 07:18 PM

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That's a pretty nice looking 3, Dave.

tedzan 09-27-2018 08:31 PM

1949 LEAF Cleveland Indians
 
There are twenty HOFers in the 1949 LEAF set with the Indians having the most HOFers......


Spring series cards

MVP in 1948
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...udreau25xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...oudreau25x.jpg.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eGordon25x.jpg




Summer series cards (short-prints)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...AFFeller25.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eafDoby25x.jpg



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Bill77 09-27-2018 10:25 PM

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My Del Ennis rookie.

bobsbbcards 09-28-2018 05:48 AM

And for those of you who simply have to start the set after seeing these awesome cards, this is on eBay now (full disclosure--I know the seller).

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/RdMAA...OH/s-l1600.jpg

tedzan 09-28-2018 02:31 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Complementary pair of wrong backs from my 2nd 1949 LEAF set.

These inverted backs on the cards in the 2nd (SP) series tells us that the printer simply ran the pre-printed 49-card sheets (of fronts)
in reverse when doing the back print run. All 49 subjects in this series have been found with wrong-backs.

I've never seen 1st series wrong-backs from this set. Anyhow, if you have 1949 LEAF wrong-backs, please post them here.....Thanks.



.http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...idGordonWB.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dGordonWBk.jpg




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pokerplyr80 09-28-2018 09:21 PM

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I only have one

tedzan 09-29-2018 11:00 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Shown here is one of the 4 variations in this set. The Red Cap version of Peterson is tougher to find.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...etersonBxR.jpg



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Exhibitman 10-01-2018 01:14 PM

Leaf errors and misprints are fun. My Spahn 'ghost':

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...hn%20front.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ahn%20back.jpg


Vandermeer front ghost:


http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...der%20Meer.jpg

And the color variations:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...f%20Harris.jpg

The beautiful thing about Leaf is that their QC absolutely sucked across the board:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...s%20Fields.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ong%20back.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...%20Leonard.jpg

tedzan 10-01-2018 08:04 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Great stuff there, Adam.

Here's some of mine...…


Varying shades of BLUE......shown here are some of my LEAF cards from Set #1 and Set #2.....


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...aftwmusial.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tBluexBlue.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ndillinger.jpg


And then, there is BLUE or no BLUE.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...izellplatt.jpg



Plus, I'll throw in a red wet-transfer of Johnny Hopp.
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...49leafhopp.jpg


Stay tuned....I'll be displaying more of these LEAF printing anomalies.



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tedzan 10-04-2018 11:41 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...2xKiner25x.jpg



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tedzan 10-05-2018 08:02 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
While the 1st series of 49 cards of this 1949 LEAF BB set were very available in most states throughout the country in the early Spring of 1949,
the 2nd series (49 cards) were issued in the Summer of 1949 and were regionally limited to Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan and Ohio.
These 2nd series cards, as most of you know who collect this set, are extremely tough to find. And, are referred to as Short-Prints.
In the following posts all 49 of these short-prints will be displayed.

FYI....1949 LEAF 2nd series checklist with respect to teams......


BOSTON BRAVES
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ALVIN DARK
TOMMY HOLMES
HAROLD REISER

BOSTON RED SOX
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MATHEW BATTS
DOM DiMAGGIO
BILLY GOODMAN
JOHNNY PESKY
VERN STEPHENS

CHICAGO CUBS
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PHIL CAVARETTA
FRANK GUSTINE
EMIL LEONARD
HARRY LOWREY
BOB SCHEFFING
JOHNNY SCHMITZ
HARRY WALKER

CHICAGO WHITE SOX
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FLOYD BAKER
ORVAL GROVE
CASIMER MICHAELS
DAVE PHILLEY

CINCINNATI REDS
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BOBBY ADAMS
HANK SAUER
JOHN WYROSTEK

CLEVELAND INDIANS
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BOB FELLER
LEROY PAIGE
LARRY DOBY
KEN KELTNER
DALE MITCHELL

DETROIT TIGERS
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GEORGE KELL
HAL NEWHOUSER
WALTER EVERS
FRED HUTCHINSON
VIRGIL TRUCKS

NEW YORK GIANTS
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SID GORDON

NEW YORK YANKEES
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TOMMY HENRICH

PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS
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EDDIE JOOST
HENRY MAJESKI
BARNEY McCOSKY

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
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ED MILLER
DICK SISLER

PITTSBURGH PIRATES
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KIRBY HIGBE
DANNY MURTAUGH
EDDIE STEVENS

ST LOUIS BROWNS
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BOB DILLINGER
CLIFFORD FANNIN
AL ZARILLA

ST LOUIS CARDINALS
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ENOS SLAUGHTER
HARRY BRECHEEN
GEORGE KUROWSKI

WASHINGTON SENATORS
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EDDIE STEWART



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tedzan 10-05-2018 08:32 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Starting the 2nd series cards display...…


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rGorFel50x.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...lAdaMur50x.jpg
…………………………………………………….…. l.......wrong back….(Feller).......l



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iserTrucks.jpg



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ZiggerZagger 10-05-2018 09:01 PM

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Neal 10-05-2018 09:20 PM

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MBMiller25 10-06-2018 08:11 AM

Wonderful
 
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This is a wonderful thread. I didn’t know a lot about this set, other than I love the look of the cards. Thank you for sharing so much information. This is my only Leaf st this time.

invest 10-06-2018 01:31 PM

Great thread!!!
 
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Here are my only Leafs

Troy

tedzan 10-06-2018 09:01 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Continuing with the 2nd series cards, here are 9 more......

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...GrJoHuHo25.jpg



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tedzan 10-07-2018 12:01 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
I've been collecting 1949 LEAF's for 37 years. Currently making progress on my 2nd set of them. And, it appears to me that these 6 subjects in the 2nd series
are considerably tougher to find than any of the other 43 subjects in this series.

I am curious to hear what cards have you guys found to be the toughest in this set ?



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...AFFeller25.jpg..http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eafDoby25x.jpg



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ouserKellX.jpg



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tedzan 10-07-2018 09:30 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
And, here is another group of short-prints....this brings our total to 33 cards displayed on this page.
Sixteen more will be forthcoming to complete the 2nd series group of 49 subjects.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...SpSwWaZa25.jpg



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tedzan 10-08-2018 08:00 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Here are 15 more 2nd series cards....which leaves us just one more card to show to complete this 49-card display on this page.

Anyone want to guess who this 49th guy is ?


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rosGustine.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...StBaCaSc25.jpg



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tedzan 10-09-2018 05:55 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
No one ventured a guess, so here's the 49th card in this 2nd series display.


The Brothers DiMaggio

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...omDiMaggio.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DiMaggio25.jpg
2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949



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tedzan 10-12-2018 08:30 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
OK, quite a number of mis-printed 1949 LEAF cards can be found....but, can anyone on this forum top this mis-print ?
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...illjohnson.jpg
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tedzan 10-16-2018 09:00 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
There are some pretty nice looking Babe Ruth cards on display in this thread. Here are my two Ruth cards from my two sets.

The fine looking Ruth on the left...I paid only a penny for in the Spring of 1949. It is not unusual to find the Babe Ruth cards
from this set in pretty nice condition, because a lot of us kids did not "flip" them, nor stick them in our bicycle spokes (as we
did with many of the other LEAF cards in our youth).

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...beruth49_1.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eafRuth25x.jpg
http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...abeRuth25b.jpg



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bkspoilers 10-19-2018 12:06 PM

Sweet 1 cent Ruth. Did you buy packs in the day as well?

tedzan 10-19-2018 11:37 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Here are the wrappers of the two competing Gum Co. in 1949. The Bowman wax packs were available for a Penny and a Nickel.
I remember only Penny wax packs of LEAF in my neighborhood.


..................... 1949 BOWMAN ............................................... 1949 LEAF .........................
http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...wmanleaf-1.jpg
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tedzan 10-23-2018 08:30 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
1949 LEAF BB B/W photo of an uncut sheet of the 1st series cards.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eries1x50x.jpg



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thatkidfromjerrymaguire 10-30-2018 08:38 PM

Ted, thanks for all the images. Sometimes I think the only way to appreciate the beauty of a set is to see many of the cards side by side. Especially a set with so many colors.

Side note, the inclusion of Ruth has puzzled me....as do the high prices for that card since it was not issued during his playing days. It makes that set even harder to put together for a collector on a budget!

tedzan 11-01-2018 07:52 PM

1949 LEAF set
 
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Originally Posted by thatkidfromjerrymaguire (Post 1823497)
Ted, thanks for all the images. Sometimes I think the only way to appreciate the beauty of a set is to see many of the cards side by side. Especially a set with so many colors.

Side note, the inclusion of Ruth has puzzled me....as do the high prices for that card since it was not issued during his playing days. It makes that set even harder to put together for a collector on a budget!


Hi
In the Spring of 1949, many of us kids were excited to open up a LEAF pack to find a Babe Ruth card. It was still very fresh in our minds when Babe Ruth passed away in August 1948.
LEAF Gum Co. sold a lot of cards by including Ruth in this set.

Furthermore, they sold a lot cards in 1949 by "skip-numbering" these cards. This was a "nasty" little marketing trick that kept us kids spending a ton of pennies buying these cards, in
the quest of filling in our sets with the missing numbers. Many of which did not exist.


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ajquigs 11-02-2018 07:54 AM

My two. Love em both.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=25619

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=25675

tedzan 11-06-2018 06:16 PM

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tedzan 11-06-2018 06:16 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
The long-sleeve card of Cliff Aberson appeared in the early issues of the 1949 LEAF cards. The short-sleeve version
appeared later in the game. My guess is that the short-sleeve Aberson cards are simply the result of printing flaw.

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...bersons25x.jpg



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KCRfan1 11-07-2018 09:09 AM

Ted -

You make reference to " short print " with some of the cards. Is this due to the cards being a " single print " in relation to the rest of the cards, or were all cards to be printed in the same amount, but due to layout of the cards on a sheet some were overlooked and not placed as often for printing.

tedzan 11-07-2018 11:16 PM

1949 LEAF set re-visited....show us your cards
 
Hi Lou

The so-called "Short-Prints" is a term which the hobby years ago used to identify these cards. I prefer to refer to these 1949 LEAF cards as the "2nd series" cards
which were issued in the Summer of 1949. These 49 cards were limited in both production and distribution. Research indicates that this 2nd series of 1949 LEAF's
were marketed only in Eastern Massachusetts, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio. While the 1st series of 49 cards were marketed in large numbers nationwide.
My understanding as to why this occurred was due to litigation problems between the BOWMAN GUM CO. and the LEAF GUM CO. in 1949.

All 49 cards in this 2nd series are displayed in this thread in Posts #22, 27, 28, 29, 30, and 31.


1st Series.....issued March 1949

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...DiMaggio50.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...iMaggio50b.jpg




2nd Series.....issued Summer 1949

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...fPaige25xb.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...afPaige25x.jpg




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tedzan 11-18-2018 08:12 PM

1949 Leaf BB set re-visited....show us your cards......
 
….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.

Note that SGC identifies the year of these Premiums as 1949. And, I think PSA does, also. Yet they incorrectly identify the 1949 BB cards. Trust me, guys...…
these Premiums were inserted in the 24-count Wax-Back boxes which the 1949 BB cards were packaged in. I would say, PSA and SGC are totally confused ! ?



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...uGehrig25x.jpg




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Ken Morganti 11-19-2018 08:26 PM

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Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.

RedsFan1941 11-19-2018 09:17 PM

again ... grading companies not alone on this nor were they the first. i know you know this.

tedzan 11-19-2018 09:59 PM

1949 Leaf BB set re-visited....show us your cards......
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Morganti (Post 1828326)
Attachment 334676
Hope this works...
It's a beat up version of one of my favorites in my set.


Hi Ken

It's a very tough card, no matter it's condition. Thanks for posting it.


Here's the Hermansk in my set....not too much better.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...rResTru50x.jpg


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tedzan 11-20-2018 10:39 PM

1949 Leaf BB set re-visited....show us your cards......
 
….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Hcaption25.jpg




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tedzan 12-03-2018 08:26 PM

1949 Leaf BB set re-visited....show us your cards......
 
….or, show us your 1949 LEAF Premiums.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BabeRuth25.jpg . . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...beruth49_1.jpg




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tedzan 12-22-2018 03:34 PM

1949 LEAF BB set re-visited....show us your cards
 
In early press runs Kent Peterson is depicted with a black cap. Later issues of 1st series cards Kent Peterson is depicted with a Red cap.
My guess is LEAF changed the color of his cap to be consistent with the 3 other Cincinnati players in the 1st series. The Red cap version
is much tougher to find.


http://i529.photobucket.com/albums/d...cincireds5.jpg



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