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egri 03-11-2015 02:13 PM

Cory Lidle's 2006 Topps must be very tough as well; the first series was released in February, the second series in June, and he died that October.

Orioles1954 03-11-2015 09:53 PM

Of living signers residing in the United States, I haven't seen or heard of many 1963 Topps Steve Dalkowski signed cards.

MacDice 03-12-2015 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1954 (Post 1389708)
Of living signers residing in the United States, I haven't seen or heard of many 1963 Topps Steve Dalkowski signed cards.

Steve has had a lot of issues to say the least. Apparently he is in a long-term care facility but per reports on a different site (from someone who is working with the family on a book), Steve's sister has been bringing a few pieces of his fan mail each time she goes to see him. He has begun signing a few of the items in the order they were received starting with items from 2010.

BrianinAZ 04-24-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 1382800)
I have a signed Nick Adenhart UD I got IP that was signed right after it was released. Three weeks later he was killed.

Could you post a Scan/photo of that Adenhart? I would love to see it.

BrianinAZ 04-24-2015 01:27 PM

Byron
 
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Originally Posted by dgo71 (Post 1218272)
Byron McLaughlin's 84 Topps is very difficult to find as he was on the run from the FBI when it was issued and fled the country soon after. I don't think anyone knows to this day where he is, though the rumor is he now lives in France.

McLaughlin was around to sign in the spring of 1984 and throughout the year.
He was not arrested until 1990 and signed mail through his parents address (which Jack Smalling published) during that time. The key was to mail to him right before Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Received in Mail from his parents home in the mid 1980s
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...pspal5z43i.jpg
Received in person in 1984
http://i1065.photobucket.com/albums/...pslxh8qr48.jpg

vintagehofrookies 04-25-2015 04:56 AM

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this should be somewhat tough (Died in 1955)

egri 05-01-2015 06:45 PM

The 1991 Topps Archives Johnny Mize must be very difficult. It was released in December, and he died in 1993 after having been in bad health. I've only seen one, and the signature was very shaky.

Cooptown 05-01-2015 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by egri (Post 1407065)
The 1991 Topps Archives Johnny Mize must be very difficult. It was released in December, and he died in 1993 after having been in bad health. I've only seen one, and the signature was very shaky.

I have one and I never thought of it as rare. I looked on ebay and there is a slabbed one for $35.

7nohitter 05-02-2015 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooptown (Post 1407090)
I have one and I never thought of it as rare. I looked on ebay and there is a slabbed one for $35.

Looks like a pretty good signature too

egri 05-04-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cooptown (Post 1407090)
I have one and I never thought of it as rare. I looked on ebay and there is a slabbed one for $35.

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Originally Posted by 7nohitter (Post 1407229)
Looks like a pretty good signature too

Then I stand corrected. I just figured that since there was only about 18 months between the release of the set and Mize's passing, they would be hard to come by. I'll take my lumps on this one.

rctaylor 06-04-2015 12:53 AM

Les Fusselman
 
Has anyone ever seen a 1952 topps (Hi#) or a 1953 topps Les Fusselman card signed? I have been looking for a signed Fusselman card for years!

rctaylor 06-04-2015 01:02 AM

87 topps Ricky Wright
 
I met Ricky Wright right after the 1987 season. He had come to Oklahoma to play in a charity golf tournament. My friend & I had his 86 topps traded & 87 topps cards. We asked hi for his autograph & he signed our 86 topps traded cards but politely refused to sign the 8 topps cards. He told us he had signed a few ( I think it was 10 or 12 cards) for his hometown little league program to auction off to raise money to purchase new lights for the fields. He said the cards he had signed for his hometown little league program will be the only ones he would ever sign & promised them he would never sign that card again for anyone so they would be able to use that to help sell them for a premium price!

rctaylor 06-04-2015 01:05 AM

Roger Clemens Diamond King cards
 
Roger will sign the diamond kings cards now at card show signings. My friend paid $199 at a show to get his signed to comply his set just a couple years ago.

Laxcat 06-04-2015 08:22 AM

Does anyone know if a 1986 Topps TBTC Roger Maris exists? I only collect the auto's from when they played, but I'd make an exception for this.

egri 06-04-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Laxcat (Post 1417892)
Does anyone know if a 1986 Topps TBTC Roger Maris exists? I only collect the auto's from when they played, but I'd make an exception for this.

I thought Maris died in 1985?

Laxcat 06-04-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by egri (Post 1417896)
I thought Maris died in 1985?

He did. December 14th. I'm not aware of when topps product went out. I'm guessing they didn't do it like they do today. I was wondering if the set came out in time or not.

rctaylor 06-04-2015 12:25 PM

Topps back then released product before Christmas but I think Maris was too sick to even sign one if they did come out in time before he died. I know the last couple weeks he was in pretty bad shape & slipped into a coma for a few days before he passed.

Laxcat 06-04-2015 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by rctaylor (Post 1417951)
Topps back then released product before Christmas but I think Maris was too sick to even sign one if they did come out in time before he died. I know the last couple weeks he was in pretty bad shape & slipped into a coma for a few days before he passed.

Thanks for the info. It has always been a "what if" scenario between my me and my dad. The only topps issued I need signed is the 69 World Series McCarver card. I'm not even sure I want that one, but I have a little bit of completionist in me recently.

yankeeno7 06-06-2015 12:07 AM

I was fortunate enough to find one of these rare singed cards and it just passed PSA/DNA. I dont know anyone who has it. I have never seen another. Surprisingly, it hasnt been mentioned on this thread. I'll be sharing once I get it back in my hands. Stay tuned! :)

egri 09-17-2015 11:35 AM

This month's edition of Beckett Vintage Collector Magazine (the one with Jackie Robinson on the cover) has an article in the back about the toughness of completing signed sets. The focus is on sets from the 1970's. Most of what's in the article has already been covered here, but it's still a pretty good read.

CooperstownExpert 11-08-2015 07:54 PM

The fought ones make it fun
 
It took nearly 30 years to complete the 1985,86,87 Topps and the 1986 Donruss and 1987 Fleer sets. The funny thing is now that they're complete I don't really know what to do with them. They're pretty duplicitous. It took a ton of effort and I wouldn't want to another similar project. Getting 86T Doug Flynn, 87T Wright, 85T Al Williams, or that 87F Magic Mets, or 86D Romero took a lot of luck and attention. It's kind of like, "Now what?". Looking back, it was the toughies that made it so fun.

Stanesq 11-08-2015 09:26 PM

Beckett Vintage collector
 
wnet to the newsstand but could no tfind Beckett Vintage Collector.

Would love to see what they have to say about completing signed sets if anyone has ca copy they can scan and email to me please PM. Thanks

7nohitter 11-09-2015 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CooperstownExpert (Post 1470386)
It took nearly 30 years to complete the 1985,86,87 Topps and the 1986 Donruss and 1987 Fleer sets. The funny thing is now that they're complete I don't really know what to do with them. They're pretty duplicitous. It took a ton of effort and I wouldn't want to another similar project. Getting 86T Doug Flynn, 87T Wright, 85T Al Williams, or that 87F Magic Mets, or 86D Romero took a lot of luck and attention. It's kind of like, "Now what?". Looking back, it was the toughies that made it so fun.

How did you get the 87T Wright?

David Atkatz 11-09-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CooperstownExpert (Post 1470386)
It took nearly 30 years to complete the 1985,86,87 Topps and the 1986 Donruss and 1987 Fleer sets. The funny thing is now that they're complete I don't really know what to do with them. They're pretty duplicitous.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

du·plic·i·tous
d(y)o͞oˈplisitəs/
adjective
deceitful.
"treacherous, duplicitous behavior"

MacDice 11-09-2015 02:55 PM

Why is the 87F Magic Mets such a difficult card? Is it just because Garry Carter passed away and had a short window to sign the card or does someone refuse to sign it?

dgo71 11-09-2015 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MacDice (Post 1470601)
Why is the 87F Magic Mets such a difficult card? Is it just because Garry Carter passed away and had a short window to sign the card or does someone refuse to sign it?

I assume it's tough because of Carter, but not because he had a short window to sign it. Carter died in 2012, 25 years after the card was issued. Carter was tough(er) to get on cards from 1984 on, after his sister (I think it was his sister) passed away from leukemia. When that happened he would only sign cards from 1984 on for a $25 donation. While many collectors had no problem giving him the money to get their set cards done, the Magic Mets card probably wasn't near the top of the list people would spend $25 for. At least compared to say, 87T, 89UD, etc.

vintagehofrookies 11-10-2015 08:56 AM

is a 1973 Topps Roberto Clemente possible? That would be an amazing auto to have

Laxcat 11-10-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CooperstownExpert (Post 1470386)
It took nearly 30 years to complete the 1985,86,87 Topps and the 1986 Donruss and 1987 Fleer sets. The funny thing is now that they're complete I don't really know what to do with them. They're pretty duplicitous. It took a ton of effort and I wouldn't want to another similar project. Getting 86T Doug Flynn, 87T Wright, 85T Al Williams, or that 87F Magic Mets, or 86D Romero took a lot of luck and attention. It's kind of like, "Now what?". Looking back, it was the toughies that made it so fun.


How do you define "complete" ? I'd pay $25 to see a certified '86 Maris.

Republicaninmass 11-10-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by yankeeno7 (Post 1418565)
I was fortunate enough to find one of these rare singed cards and it just passed PSA/DNA. I dont know anyone who has it. I have never seen another. Surprisingly, it hasnt been mentioned on this thread. I'll be sharing once I get it back in my hands. Stay tuned! :)

Curious what it was?

RaidonCollects 11-10-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagehofrookies (Post 1470959)
is a 1973 Topps Roberto Clemente possible? That would be an amazing auto to have

Unfortunately he died on New Years Eve 1972, quite a while before '73 Topps was printed. You can find '72 clemente autos, but they sell for $$$$

Owen

sbfinley 11-12-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidonCollects (Post 1471136)
Unfortunately he died on New Years Eve 1972, quite a while before '73 Topps was printed. You can find '72 clemente autos, but they sell for $$$$

Owen

I was actually perusing an old Legendary catalog last night that had a signed 72' set with all three Clementes and my jaw dropped.

I also had no clue about the difficulty of a Perez-Steele Robin Roberts until this past Heritage auction. Closed over $7k if I recall correctly.

dgo71 11-12-2015 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley (Post 1471971)
I also had no clue about the difficulty of a Perez-Steele Robin Roberts until this past Heritage auction. Closed over $7k if I recall correctly.

Are you thinking of Richie Ashburn? Roberts is plentiful.

sbfinley 11-13-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dgo71 (Post 1472179)
Are you thinking of Richie Ashburn? Roberts is plentiful.

Ha, yes. Guess I had Roberts on my mind.

laimbeer3 03-28-2016 12:07 PM

Just stumbled across this thread. As an earlier follow up, the Drew Henson card mentioned was his 1999 Upper Deck SP Top Prospects. When I got mine signed, he wrote 1/5 signed on the back of it. I have heard now he has loosened up. I got him to sign it though as I was down to just he and JD Drew in that set, had been working on it for years, and explained the situation to him.

I have finished the 1996, 1998, 2000, and 2001 SP Top Prospects sets all in blue. There wasn't a 1997 one and the 1999 one I only need the #1 card of JD Drew to finish. Been looking for that card for awhile and can never locate one.

Enjoyed the 1987 Topps discussions. I have tons of those but that was a couple years before I started hitting spring training and other locations so I never tried that set. I do work on the 1996 Studio and 1997 Fleer ones though as well.

bbcard1 03-28-2016 12:31 PM

Earlier this year I made a focus to finish my 1978 Grand Slam set...I had gotten more than 60 TTM as a teenager. I ended up getting in contact with the sets original publisher who had one extra set which he had gotten for his son but his son had never gotten interested. Of course, the Carl Reynolds is not possible as he passed while the set was at the printers. The Rube Walberg is very difficult as he died shortly after the set was produced. The George McQuinn card is probably more difficult. At some point Jackie Jensen quit responding to TTM requests. Thornton Lee personalized all the cards...it was a fun experience...I was able to get a Bobby Doerr TTM...nearly 40 years after I had purchased the set!

Wrightfan85 03-29-2016 08:59 AM

If we're talking about postcards, Dave Bancroft on a gold HOF plaque. Only had a year to sign and I believe some sold within the last 10 years were fake.

Republicaninmass 03-31-2016 12:37 PM

Bancroft is super tough, I think there may have only been one or two opportunities to get him. Once at induction, and he might have never made it to the old timers game the following year.

That being said, even theost impossible cards seem to surface. A few I've had, 1953 Bowman, and 1954 topps Howie fox, and a gorgeous 1959 topps Marcelino solis trying a bell as being extremely elusive

egri 03-31-2016 08:19 PM

Are we including minor league cards as well? The Pawtucket Red Sox have a set they give away once a year that is a pain in the keister to complete. I've been plugging away at a 2007 set for eight years now; it will probably never be completed because infielder Ed Rogers didn't do TTM and has since retired, possibly to his native Venezuela.

egri 04-01-2016 03:56 PM

Also, I've only seen one signed 19th century card, an 1887 Old Judge Connie Mack signed on the back. I wonder if there are any others?

theshleps 04-01-2016 04:22 PM

I have the 1895 mayo Plug signed Hugh Duffy. In a safe so can't post but was from an REA. I got in a trade for a signed T206 Cy Young that was a very light signature. Paul may list the Duffy on his site http://www.signedt206.com/other-peop...eadball-cards/
Card is on bottom left. Also has a separate PSA if that matters

theshleps 04-01-2016 04:25 PM

2009 UD Adenhart
 
Willing to sell my 2009 UD Adenhart listed earlier on this post. I got it IP at Tempe Diablo during spring training. Only had a 3 week window to sign it. Don't know how many exist. If interested contact me next week. $500 paypal gift

dgo71 04-01-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 1521964)
Willing to sell my 2009 UD Adenhart listed earlier on this post. I got it IP at Tempe Diablo during spring training. Only had a 3 week window to sign it. Don't know how many exist. If interested contact me next week. $500 paypal gift

I saw one on eBay the week he passed away, haven't seen one since. It's pretty hard to find, good luck.

Topps206 04-02-2016 06:07 PM

Are the Ricky Wright cards on eBay fake? I recently saw a base and Rangers Leaders.

Griffins 04-02-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by hawaiian bam bam (Post 1383778)
1987 topps terry Forster is a tough one to find also for some reason it's hard to find a 1981 topps traded Fernando Valenzuela and I have never seen a 1955 topps Jackie Robinson signed either.


There is a long time Dodger staffer than has an incredible collection of signed cards, including multiples of '55 Topps Jackie Robinson.

mrmopar 04-02-2016 11:04 PM

I can't answer the question, but my understanding is that the tough Wright signature to have is his 87 Topps. It seems any of his signatures are fairly uncommon, but they are out there. I have a team sheet for example that includes Wright. I have an 83 Fleer as well.

I think most people assume he doesn't sign at all, which would explain why his other signed cards are always listed at such high opening prices and when I have seen something like the 83 Fleer auctioned, it definitely gets higher activity that most cards that doesn't seem to be that hard to find.

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1522406)
Are the Ricky Wright cards on eBay fake? I recently saw a base and Rangers Leaders.


sbfinley 04-02-2016 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1522406)
Are the Ricky Wright cards on eBay fake? I recently saw a base and Rangers Leaders.

The Rangers Leader card was listed (and subsequently pulled by ebay) by a seller with a less than stellar reputation.

Topps206 04-03-2016 07:33 AM

I should ask these companies I mail order with if they ever thought of bringing in Ricky Wright. I'd pay good money to get mine done for the set.

sbfinley 04-03-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Topps206 (Post 1522551)
I should ask these companies I mail order with if they ever thought of bringing in Ricky Wright. I'd pay good money to get mine done for the set.

I know several individuals have reached to him and offered crazy sums to 1-3 cards and he declined. I'd imagine he receives signing offers as soon as often as he receives TTM requests.

Topps206 04-03-2016 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sbfinley (Post 1522762)
I know several individuals have reachyed to him and offered crazy sums to 1-3 cards and he declined. I'd imagine he receives signing offers as soon as often as he receives TTM requests.

Eventually I'm convinced he'll sign and come around. Everybody has a price.

Topps206 04-03-2016 04:32 PM

A Dick Howser 1987 was on eBay earlier, but it got pulled.


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