Show me how you have your Graig Kreindler painting displayed
 

Hey guys, I need your help. Last week I received my Johnny Vander Meer painting that I commissioned with Graig. I am currently thinking about the best way to display it in my office.

I was wondering if any of the people on net54 could show me how you display your Kreindler paintings? Did you frame it or leave it unframed?

Also, have you used external custom lighting to highlight your painting?
I'm looking for different ideas. Just curious....

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your help. :)

Scott, why don't you send Johnny to me and I'll show you how I have it displayed in MY office. :D

Scott

A major consideration in determining whether a painting should be framed is the thickness of the canvas and whether the artist has painted the sides. If the sides haven't been painted, a frame will invariably enhance the painting. If the sides have been painted but the canvas is thin (I would say 3/4" or less), the painting may be enhanced by a frame; in Johnny's case, I think a shadowbox frame would be great if it's on a thin canvas.

For thicker canvases with the sides painted, my preference is to leave them unframed.

As well, the larger the painting, in my view, the better a painting normally looks unframed. However, the decision on framing any painting is of course how you will like the look.

Graig can no doubt add a more considered opinion.

Max

Thanks Max! PM sent....

If the following gets me banned, so be it...

Scott, you might be the biggest attention whore I've read on this board, and granted I haven't been here long.

A vast majority of your posts just screams, "Look at me!! Look what I have!! Look what I won!! Look look look look look!!"

Dude, no one gives a shit. I understand what this site is all about, but you just rub me the wrong way. A lot of self aggrandizing bullshit if you ask me. And I know you didn't ask, but I'm offering anyway.

Thanks. And for those who quietly agree with me, you're welcome.

I could not disagree more.

The good news is.......... chill pills do exist these days. Pop some and ck back later.

If I obtained that Vander Meer (or any of Graig's original work) I'd show it off too!

Edited for spelling error

Nobody agrees with you Jake so take a hike.

I agree with this. If I have a Graig painting I would also be an attention whore and then some!!!

Scott- Thanks for showing us the painting, I for one am jealous in a very pleasant way!

My prints from Bill Goff are wonderful but the real thing would sure be a great addition to my room!

Okay, but how do you really feel...?

Seriously though, I'm pretty sure that speaking your mind won't get you banned, but unnecessarily hostile posts like that sure don't paint you in a positive light.

I don't know what your beef with Scott is, but last time I checked, a sizable percentage of the posts on Net54 are of the "look what I got, what do you guys think of it?" nature. If you don't like those kinds of posts, skip over them and/or start some threads relating to what interests you. Yeesh.

IMHO, Scott is one of the very best contributors here. He frequently helps others, and adds value as much as anyone that posts here. This forum would be far less enjoyable and educational without Scott's contributions and insights.

FWIW, I'd also like to see how others here display their paintings. Whether or not to frame it (and how to frame it) is an interesting and valid concern. A big decision, to say the least... and a great question for those here who have that experience.

I once had a magnificent Andy Jurinko original of Jackie Robinson... and the dilemma over all the potential framing options made my head spin. I ended up selling the painting, as I needed to raise money. But I still remember the agony over whether to frame it, potential costs, and what type of frame would best compliment the painting.

Those who agree with you, certainly have the "quiet" part down.
Nice painting!

Having met Scott numerous times I gotta say he is one of the most quality people I have met. This is a site for collectors and for the most part collectors are excited by finding a great piece. So I love to see people who are excited about a great item they got or won or bought. Some people get thrills from drugs and alcohol, others like me get them from finding something cool. The funniest part is that Scott has some stuff that he has not even shown on here that is way cooler than the stuff he has shown!

Scott,
As I said before I love the painting. Unless you could find a vintage style frame that compliments the artwork I think you should leave it unframed. If you decide to frame it I would like to see you post a picture of the finished product.

At the risk of being called an attention seeking whore myself I will certainly reconsider posting my own meager pick ups.

Time for a nap!!!

[I]FWIW, I'd also like to see how others here display their paintings. Whether or not to frame it (and how to frame it) is an interesting and valid concern. A big decision, to say the least... and a great question for those here who have that experience.

I once had a magnificent Andy Jurinko original of Jackie Robinson... and the dilemma over all the potential framing options made my head spin. I ended up selling the painting, as I needed to raise money. But I still remember the agony over whether to frame it, potential costs, and what type of frame would best compliment the painting.[/QUOTE][/I][/B]

Perezfan Mark has absolutely captured where I am at right now in the decision making process. I don't recall ever being challenged by a decision on how to frame a particular piece. This particular time my head is spinning because I want to do a great job of displaying Graig's Vandy painting.

Basically what I'm looking for is framing/ displaying options that perhaps I wouldn't have come up with on my own. A couple of you have already checked in with suggestions (Thanks Max and Mike!), but I'm looking for other input before I pull the trigger.

Thanks again for your suggestions! :)

I agree completely.

I wanted to view this thread because I just opened an office and have been thinking about buying a great piece of artwork. Although I have no particular interest in Vander Meer, the emotion that painting evokes of the era and the men who played the game is almost overwhelming. What a joy it woyld be to go to my office every day and be able to gaze upon something like that. Scott of right should be proud of it. It is a remarkable piece.

On tge subject...anyone know what kind of ballpark price such a piece costs when commisioned?

Tom C

awesome painting...as they all are by craig.

Tom, if you go on to Graig's website, you can message them and they'll get back to you with the current rate (it depends on size etc) and beware that there's a waiting list (a pretty good one if it's like last year when I inquired).
Hope that helps.

http://www.graigkreindler.com/contact/contact.html

Although I doubt it was Scott's intention in starting this thread... Showing stuff off here is what makes this blah hobby sizzle. But you have to agree Sully, this forum would really suck without pictures, all that would be left is a few knuckleheads that think cussing someone out on the internet makes them look like a hardass, when we all know it's just another way of seeking attention. :rolleyes:

Man, the way Graig transitioned the sunlight from the shade of dugout roof and reflected it off Vandermeer's spike is true eye candy. Great stuff Scott -Steve F

SHOW MORE STUFF DAMNIT

Scott,
Congrats on a beautiful painting.
As many here I too enjoy a Kreindler masterpiece in my home.

I debated the frame to not frame issue when I first got mine as well.
I think there are two parts to the choice. First is the picture itself as Max went into in detail.
The other is where/how you're going to hang it. If it's by itself, then only nature of the picture should really matter. If it is surrounded by other framed works, it might look better matching the surrounding items.

At the time, I did ask Graig about framing. He referred me to Dean(his agent) for a recommendation. I never followed up because the spot it rests in now is only temporary until we finish the basement (hopefully this year)

Currently mine is unframed and looks fantastic. It is hard for me to believe that a frame could make it look any better than it does.

For those interested.
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=kreindleritis

BTW, I just reread that thread. In post 9 Graig addresses the question about framing.

Gee, I hope this doesn't make me a whore. I've always thought of myself as more of a private escort.

Mark

great paintings! I normally prefer the landscape kreindler paintings. however the greens on that gehrig are pretty fantastic mark!

Sean,
Thanks.
I think they're all great. I have yet to see a bad Kreindler.
BTW, When is that Hal Chase getting done?:D
Mark

I love it... I doubt that dude would ever agree to meet anyone in person and talk like that. Many of us will be at the National though if I am wrong:)

I'll be at the National and eager to meet anyone that is willing.

You got it..PM me when it gets closer.

Will do.

Mark, I love the way you took pictures of the paintings arrival. LOL I did the same thing when I bought my guitars. As I have no children and Gibson and Martin guitars are expensive, I took photos like yours when they arrived and at different stages of unwrapping. Like the birth of a child LOL.

To Frame or Not To Frame - Is that Really the Question?
 

All -

I am very proud to own a few Kreindlers, and not shy about sharing, either.

When I pull these paintings from the shipped boxes, I don't give much thought initially to the frame/not to frame question. My preference, instead, is to hang 'em up somewhere where I know I will see them with some regularity, and then, with the Mrs.'s permission and much due diligence, frame those I decide to frame.

I really don't put much thought into it. Hanging "naked" on the canvas, as they are, suits me just fine. A silver/gold mat/frame on the Mathewson I think helps accentuate those same tones in the jersey. But again, it would look just as good "naked".

Oh, and I never consider anything I post here to be "showing off", but rather, sharing what I own with those that would appreciate it. If you don't appreciate it, then you shouldn't be on this board.

Here are some examples:

(no idea why some of these are showing up rotated..)

I'd leave it unframed. IMO unframed draws complete attention to the painting. Pure raw beauty. His stuff rocks! Enjoy. BB

Great stuff, jacksons! Thanks for sharing.

Yeah I'd have to say unframed really pops when its on a solid color wall. I have a store bought print on canvas that was meant to be unframed and it does look great on a flat painted wall.

Awesome!
 

Jacksons,

Many thanks for your thoughts and pictures of your terrific Kreindler trio of paintings- wow! :eek:

I must say that I like the way that they look both framed and unframed. I do think that the Matty looks spectacular framed on your cherry wood wall. The unframed paintings look terrific as well. Congrats!

Those paintings are amazing, and that Johnny V. is incredible. Great to have and great to share, regardless of haters.

DanC

Jacksons,
Before, when you only had the Matty, I didn't like you. Now with three I really hate you.:D:D

How big is that Ruth? It looks spectacular!

Damn, I wish I had the money for one or two more. I have some great ideas for paintings.

Maybe someday soon!

Best,
Mark

Boy, am I late to the party or what?! Some of you may remember that a couple years ago, I too had a jerk-off, make that a jake-off, much similar to this guy, trash me for the many "show your" threads that I had started, as well as sharing many pieces from my collection. Unfortunately, despite the overwhelming support I received from the board, I've never been able to regain my enthusiasm that I once had and shared.

What does strike me a little odd is, that during the "Live from the Hunts/Ted Williams Auction" thread, Jake posted over 30 times... just on that one thread! And for whatever reason only Jake is aware of, he went back and erased many of them! What gives Jake?

Attention Whore? You have the sack to call Scott an attention whore? Dude. Take a look in the mirror.

You didn't mind all the attention that many of us showered upon you when you showed off with great pride your Ruth/Red Sox Portrait photo you won in Legendary auction. Even going so far as to claim (and I quote) "this is one of the best shots of Ruth in Boston ever" ... Hardly.

Apparently you enjoyed the attention so much so that once you got the photo framed you immediately posted a new scan of it newly framed for all to see and envy. Maybe you were sensitive and we hurt your fragile feelings because nobody gushed with any more "WOW. WHAT A GREAT RUTH PHOTO! YOU ARE SO AWESOME TO HAVE WON IT! WOW JAKE THAT'S SO FRIGGIN AWESOME. CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE A BIGGER SCAN SO I CAN SAVE IT FOR MY SCREEN SAVER? BTW... WHAT A GREAT PHOTO YOU HAVE. YOU'RE SUCH A STUD JAKE. MAN I WISH I HAD THAT PHOTO!"

Jeez... you are some piece of work.

You really picked on the wrong guy in Scott. Nobody, and I mean Nobody brings more to the memorabilia side than Scott Garner. Scott is also not only a friend but one of the finest Gentlemen that I have even known, as evidence to such in how he chose to handle this matter.

Me, on the other hand, I'm an asshole. Always have been. No matter how hard I try not to be, I just can't help myself. At least I know what I am. You, clearly are in the dark. Let me turn on the light for you Jake... You're an asshole.

With warm regards, Jimmy Catanzaro

BTW... I'm just an old disabled man and had to miss the National for the last few years due to not being able to travel. But, the thought of you actually meeting up with my friend Ben (Big Ben as we call him) face to face, sounds just to good to miss! I may have to try and figure out a way to get there... and I'm serious. Those of you who have met Ben, are now nodding their head in agreement. ;)

Thanks Mark!
I appreciate you checking in and providing your thoughts and the link to the thread when you received your Lou Gehrig painting. I actually read this when you first posted it, but had forgotten about its existence.

I agree with Randall that I love the pictures of you receiving and unwrapping Lou. It's just like Christmas Day as a kid!! Awesome!!
BTW, I've always preferred the term "private escort" as well...

Scott

Geez, with all these private escorts around I feel like I'm in Vegas! :D By the way, FWIW, I like how paintings look both framed and un-framed but I think it really depends on where it is in the house, what other things are on the wall around it, color of the walls, etc. Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong doing either.

Hey asshole, I posted that picture of Ruth in a "Show Us Your Legendary Winnings" thread. What would you have liked me to do, Jimmy?? Are you that much of a moron? I'm sure there's nicer Ruth photos of him in Boston, and I'm sure you own them, so post away jerkoff. And as for the framing, I don't like shit hanging around in plastic sleeve, that's my prefence, not to mention that someone asked to see it after it was done. And as far as any compliments I received, Graig I believe was the only one, and I wasn't looking for any. Thank you for keeping tabs though.

One other thing, I'd really love to post all of the PM's that I received after making my post about Scott, but I won't/can't.

Jimmy, I don't like to get into it with older men who are disabled, as I have a family member who is disabled, but I appreciate your moxie.

Yes, Jimmy I did erase those comments in deference to a discussion I had with David Hunt regading a misunderstanding. I apologized publically and privately to him, and thought it would be the right thing to do to delete those posts. Sorry if that pissed you off.

And as far as this Big Ben character, am I supposed to be worried he's going to kick my ass at the National for my post about Scott? Really? Give me a f*** break. Bring it on. I'll rent my own booth for the event and sell bobbleheads too.

EDIT: And yes, I'm fully aware that I'm a card-carrying member of the National Asshole Association of America.

Let me tell you about the time I was reading a framing discussion and an autograph thread broke out.

Rob D.-

HILARIOUS! I am an autograph guy and still couldn't help but laugh out loud at my desk. Well played.

FWIW, I like them unframed. Just a personal preference I guess but that framed Christy did make me rethink my stance. Great paintings!:)

well now...
 

Well now,.....an old fashioned forum brawl. Except for one F bomb of Jakes which I edited I don't see anything to ban anyone about. I totally disagree with his take on Scott, who I really like as a member and a person (though I don't think we have met) but his opinion is his opinion. I do hope there is less squabbling though. And as far as going fisticuffs over our hobby I truly hope that would never happen. Heck, if I tried to throw a punch I am quite sure I would pull a muscle in the act. The other guy could just watch me squirm. Although last night I did hit the fence in the air with a long ball and got a stand up triple. I guess I have some strength left just not like it used to be. Carry on guys but try to play nicely....and please, no F bombs or crazy stuff. If it goes too far I will lock this thread and if it keeps going then the culprits could be put in a time out......I am sure we can regroup and not have that happen though. Everyone is entitled to voice their opinion, imo. regards

The finish work in the room that these hang is fantastic. You have great taste.

The frame on the Mathewson is brilliant. I love it.

that ruth painting is incredible! kreindler s work really made me realize how easily one can get lost in a painting. its like an episode of "night gallery" where I swear if I look long enough, I see movement.
mark, I hvent given up on hal chase but I found a killer cobb I would want first. I'll send you a pic later as I can't post pics on here from my phone :(

Enjoying this thread and the opinions on framing - have been going back and forth myself on what to do with some paintings, although they are (sadly) not quite as nice as Graig's!

And not that Scott really needs any defending, but add me to the list of folks who think he is a great asset to the forum.

I guess this really gets to the heart of what it means to be a collector. If people collected things that no one else wanted, I guess that would make them hoarders (I think sometimes I might be bordering on that anyway!). I know that in my modest collection, it is always more fun to show or share with someone else who appreciates the beauty/scarcity of any new addition.

To see Scott's pursuit and enjoyment of his targeted collection brings me joy, not envy. There have been posters on this forum who seemed to take great pleasure in trying to make others feel inferior with their collection - I think it's pretty clear to see that Scott is not one of them.

Marty

I enjoy reading this thread and i wasn't going to comment, but here's my 2 cents. I am by no means taking sides, but i really enjoy seeing what others have to offer! I see it as a sharing of knowledge, seeing what's out there and what looks good. The more i see and read about the more chances it gives me to explore new avenues to branch out my collection(which is miniscule).
Carry on

Here are the pictures I would want painted if I had the cash (and someday I might!)

This Ty Cobb picture would be perfect cause I would like to have the boy in it substituted for my son and that way i could tell my son that he actually time traveled once! :)
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One of my all tiem favorite Baseball photos, This would also be a test for Graig to see how he would paint a painting :)
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1888 Pittsburgh Alleghenys, man imagine this one painted by Graig! That grandstand would be out of this world!
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A KILLER shot of the 1912 Red Sox warming up!
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nuff said bout this one!
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a great shot of my favorite team the 1908 Cubs. Graig is working on a similar one of the Yanks

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always thought this was a cool shot of Chaplin though Id probably stick to Baseball
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