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4reals 08-09-2012 12:51 PM

Errors and Variations Master List
 
Is there a master list floating around out there for errors and variations on Topps sets pre-1995 and other vintage sets pre-1980? Perhaps a link to a spreadsheet online? I've noticed an article here and an article there on some variations that aren't listed in Beckett or SCD but wondered if it was all compiled by someone in one place already. Thank you!

p.s. Not trying to start a debate on this thread about the difference between a print flaw and a variation.

ALR-bishop 08-09-2012 02:54 PM

Variation, Errors, Oddities, Variants and Print Dots
 
Once you get beyond Becketts, SCD and the Registry, the debate you want to avoid about variations versus print defects is unavoidable.

Dick Gilkison put out a publication in 1989 called The Baseball Variation Book, which he updated through 1995. It is very good. I have seen other on-line lists and on this board , Richard ( brightair) has a good list , as does Doug Goodman, also here. I also have one.

I have reviewed all of them, and they all tend to have the basic catalog regulars and many of the well known not in the catalog items. After that they vary quite a bit because everyone has a slightly different definition of what constitutes a variation, or variant, or print defect, or an error. or a glorified print dot that should be considered part of a master set, or just collectible on it's own merit

doug.goodman 08-11-2012 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4reals (Post 1024140)
p.s. Not trying to start a debate on this thread about the difference between a print flaw and a variation.

There isn't really a debate to be had, the differences are quite often a matter of personal taste. Collect what makes you happy, and you will always be right.

Doug "the 58 Herrer is a glorified print dot" Goodman

ALR-bishop 08-11-2012 06:57 AM

Be Happy
 
I don't think this "debate" makes Doug happy. He is haunted by print dots and variants and such

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...g?t=1344699003

doug.goodman 08-11-2012 07:44 PM

Yes, haunted.

Doug "I see dead people (on the pictures I collect)" Goodman

4reals 08-11-2012 08:18 PM

you guys are too much, lol

ALR-bishop 08-12-2012 07:43 AM

Dead People On Cards
 
Yes Doug, but that's just the Ken Hubbs Memorial card

pclpads 08-12-2012 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop (Post 1025123)
Yes Doug, but that's just the Ken Hubbs Memorial card

Which one? His '64T or his '66T #447? The latter has to be one of Topps' all time biggest goofs. Hubbs died two years earlier, yet they show him as a current Cubbie, but ID'd as Dick Ellsworth. Anyone know if there was ever an explanation from the Topps poobahs, or did they just let it slide thinking no one would notice? :confused:

ALR-bishop 08-12-2012 10:27 AM

Hubbs and Ellsworth
 
Reincarnation was the official explanation


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