Probstein, two things.
 

1. Didn't know Old Mill was a RARE back- http://www.ebay.com/itm/380617068787...84.m1438.l2649

2. How did this happen? http://www.ebay.com/itm/380615342756...84.m1438.l2649

That's three things if you count one of them twice.

There are many cards from different e-bay sellers lately that are getting huge prices. I would rather people draw their on conclusions are to why. Rick also recently had listed a Polar Bear as rare in his title in a recent auction. Rick is an intelligent seller in the hobby. He knows backs such as Old Mill & Polar Bear are not rare. Most people who list their cards should know the difference between a rare or scarce back as to a back which is tougher to get than the regular common back.

Fantastic. :D

5 price
 

piedmont 150 backs are popular. i consistently find that they draw a high dollar than a pied 350 or any other common SC card.

i think there are others out there collecting sub sets. i have had to pay some ridiculous prices to get a couple of them into my set when you are buying 5s and above. the card itself looks like it might grade higher than a 4, and is back centered.

the hammer price on the card is equivilant to a 5 so i think you had 2 people willing to pay a 5 price for the card.

kevin

I never thought I would hear that Piedmonts were a popular back. (other than 42's of course) ;)


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Such backs are more rare than other, more plentiful, backs. Believe the description is fair. In general, and in the business terminology, it passes use of the word "rare".

Perhaps in the industry we should have a common definition of "rare" - for pre-war, under 1,000? examples - for post-war, under 10,000?. and then perhaps a common definition of "ultra scarce" - for pre-war, under 100? - for post-war, under 1,000? and then perhaps a "handful" for pre-war under 10, and post-war under 100? Trying to assign numerical value to terms I think would be an interesting idea.

Becomes a little more interesting with T-206 of course as a Frank Chance T-206 may not be rare, but one with a particular back might be.

Ideas/views with regard to setting terms for number of examples that survive?

I started a new thread along these lines. Not Probsteins fault we do not have any guidelines really. Im cracking up.

Best,
J

I don't think there is anything wrong with his use of the word rare, even if he knows its not. and we all know its not rare. He listed the card with the correct info, and correct back. If a buyer wants to pay a price for it that's up to them to do their own DD, on the back in this case. Kind of like buying a PSA 4 that's looks more like a PSA 2. Buy the card not the grade and know what your buying. Would be a different story if he listed it as a drum back but the card scan shows a PED. The open market dictates a price. If a buyer overpays that's on him or her, as well as if a buyer gets a deal on something that should of gone for more. Just my opinion as a buyer.

Rare...
 

And now he has a T206 Demmitt and O'Hara listed so he does get rare items.

IMHO, these 2 cards are slightly scarce, at best - certainly not close to being rare!!

Val (a NON-T206 collector, thankfully!) :p

Puffery from a seller, shocking.
What hobby is this?