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4reals 05-30-2013 09:19 AM

Buyer beware: Possible Fake PSA '63 Rose RC on ebay
 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Topps-R...item2a2d1c58dd

Even though it's a PSA graded card, 2 of the 4 pics used in the listing are close-ups cropping out the case. All of the close up pics are crisp and clear. But amazingly, the seller's camera just can't seem to focus on the full shots. The reason? On the full shots, even though it's blurry, you can see a distinct difference in the PSA holder on the bottom compared to the top. When a PSA holder is opened up or separated to remove the card it creates "frosting" or crytalization, a cloudy white color as opposed to a clear color. My assumption is the seller is trying to disguise the frosting with a blurry pic. The label and cert number may even be original, but in all likelihood the real card was removed and replaced with either a fake or a lesser condition card. The seller even goes so far as to let buyers know there are "dig" marks in the corner and plays coy by suggesting it may have been dropped. Another possibility is the seller decided he didn't like the grade of the card, started to remove it from its slab and then had second thoughts about doing it. He may simply be selling a legit card in a damaged case. Either way, if you see a frosted PSA case it should raise flags and beware!

jjcollects 05-30-2013 09:37 AM

The frosting does look very suspicious around the edges. Thanks for sharing.

4reals 05-30-2013 09:43 AM

seller feedback
 
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So, I went back and checked out the seller's feedback thinking maybe this might be a guy who doesn't know what he's selling and then I found this lovely nugget:

jjcollects 05-30-2013 09:52 AM

sellers like him kill the hobby

jjcollects 05-30-2013 09:57 AM

I sent him a message. You should do the same.

chaddurbin 05-30-2013 10:05 AM

i think you're right joe, it looks to be a fake label too imo. i reported the listing, you guys should do the same.

4reals 05-30-2013 10:06 AM

I asked him for the cert number on the label. Wanted to gather as much info before I put him on blast. I notified the buyer of the Unitas card who lost his case against him in case he might still be able to appeal with new ammo, idk? I feel bad for that guy.

4reals 05-30-2013 10:59 AM

Cert. Number
 
The seller responded with the cert. number.

It checks out - 21216429 - so at the very least the label looks legit.

4reals 05-30-2013 03:01 PM

The listing was ended by the seller. Good for him, I'm glad he did the right thing.

RedlegsFan 05-30-2013 11:11 PM

It's too bad to see stuff like this. For me, I am thankful to have net54 as a learning resource for card collecting, as it does require a bit of hard earned money. I wish people wouldn't try to con hobbiests, but where there's money to be made, unfortunately I guess we run into these things. Thanks to all you informed, educated collectors and sellers for keeping us informed;)

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jjcollects 05-31-2013 10:40 AM

well said


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