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Vintagecatcher 01-10-2015 03:48 AM

What is your deal breaker?
 
We all have standards for what we want with regards to condition for our pre-war card collections.

I try to pick up examples that have nice fronts...free of creases or wrinkles. Backs can have issues, but the fronts should present very well.

I realize I do have one deal breaker...even if it's a rare card. I get the willies when I see cards with mice bites.

What are your "deal breakers?"


Patrick

Texxxx 01-10-2015 04:05 AM

The only absolute deal breaker to me is if it cost more money than I have in my pocket.

Bocabirdman 01-10-2015 04:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texxxx (Post 1364804)
The only absolute deal breaker to me is if it cost more money than I have in my pocket.

I would check my other pocket first.......

freakhappy 01-10-2015 06:32 AM

Paper loss gets on my nerves and is usually the deal breaker unless it's an expensive card I would otherwise be unable to afford.


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buymycards 01-10-2015 06:35 AM

writing
 
I don't mind beat up cards or paper loss, but writing on a card bothers me.

Tao_Moko 01-10-2015 06:43 AM

I have gotten wrapped up with the back variances lately on T206 since I'm completing runs. Other than that, I really don't care about the condition of the back if the front is clean. Ultimately, I collect players and not advertising so I like paying less for a card that presents well on the front.

Jason 01-10-2015 06:46 AM

I don't like paper loss or writing on a card either. I will purchase them if it's an example I need at the time. My deal breaker is clipped corners can't stand them unless it's a T210 Stengel im avoiding them:)

ullmandds 01-10-2015 07:20 AM

unless it is an ultra rare/scarce card I need(ie a miller I need for my run)...disfiguring writing on the front of a card...as well as incomplete cards(corners missing/holes) are dealbreakers for me.

back in the 80's-90's creases were also dealbreakers for me...but obviously I've had to relax this rule over the years!!!!!

Leon 01-10-2015 07:24 AM

Pieces missing or creases through the head area kill a card for me, unless it's really rare and I need it.

atx840 01-10-2015 07:53 AM

Large spots of paperloss, ugly stains & pinholes...most other flaws I can live with.


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7nohitter 01-10-2015 08:17 AM

I can overlook one pinhole, a couple of creases and a spot of paper loss...writing is the killer for me.

Runscott 01-10-2015 09:33 AM

Portrait cards with an eye scratched out.

Eric72 01-10-2015 09:40 AM

If a card is fake, that's a deal-breaker for me.

brob28 01-10-2015 09:42 AM

Unless it's VERY rare trimming is a stopper I also hate creases through the head esp. on T206 portraits.

4815162342 01-10-2015 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texxxx (Post 1364804)
The only absolute deal breaker to me is if it cost more money than I have in my pocket.

+1 Price is the only real dealbreaker.

DeanH3 01-10-2015 09:58 AM

back in the 80's-90's creases were also dealbreakers for me...but obviously I've had to relax this rule over the years!!!!![/QUOTE]

Same here but I'm still not there yet on heavy creases or creases through the center of a card. Corner creases or light paper loss on the reverse have become more tolerable for me. I'm still a centering snob unless it's a rare/scarce card.

Jim65 01-10-2015 11:14 AM

Writing on the front of a card.

Big Ben 01-10-2015 11:30 AM

Deal breakers are handwriting, major creases, large paper loss, and pinholes.

I look for Pre World War II cards with high numerical grades accompanied with the (MC) or (OC) qualifiers.

gregr2 01-10-2015 11:34 AM

Paper loss and large creases.

ethicsprof 01-10-2015 11:35 AM

deal breaker
 
if it looks so rough, that the board can't figure out if it's real or not.

best,
barry

HRBAKER 01-10-2015 11:35 AM

Something for sale that is not priced.

Luke 01-10-2015 11:38 AM

For a scarce card, I can see the beauty in it pretty much no matter what. If the card isn't scarce: clipped corners, writing on front, and large spots of paper loss bug me the most.

grainsley 01-10-2015 11:41 AM

There are about 200 guys in OBC who have never met a card they wouldn't put in their binders...........

e107collector 01-10-2015 12:03 PM

Deal Breakers
 
Bad centering on the front of the card, or creases/paper loss on the player's face.

Tony

Jason Carota 01-10-2015 12:12 PM

I can deal with paper loss, writing, creases, pinholes, staining, etc., but off-center and trimmed cards are a deal breaker for me.

EvilKing00 01-10-2015 12:38 PM

Creace on the players face no matter what the price im not interested

clydepepper 01-10-2015 12:43 PM

Qualified Grades - I avoid those cards like the plague.

Vintagevault13 01-10-2015 12:53 PM

Can't handle holes, tears, writing, paper loss, heavy creases in middle of card. I can live with corner wear and light creases.

Andretti83 01-10-2015 12:59 PM

With any Pre-War collection, I try to avoid cards with paperloss. Generally the old glues are notorious for causing paperloss from scrapbooks...better left untouched IMO.

jrlebert 01-10-2015 01:11 PM

Writing kills it. Holes and missing pieces are right up there, too.

Gradedcardman 01-10-2015 01:13 PM

Deal breaker
 
Something that is for sale but no scans !!

brass_rat 01-10-2015 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 1365054)
Something that is for sale but no scans !!

Amen to that!

Also, I can live with and definitely enjoy some low-grade cards, but my other deal-breaker is an obviously trimmed card in a high-grade holder! :eek:

Cheers,
Steve

conor912 01-10-2015 01:24 PM

If the seller is asking top dollar AND being a d-bag about it. If I really want a card, I am generally willing to pay you a premium, but not if you're being an a-hole in the process.

Lgarza99 01-10-2015 03:19 PM

Grossly off centered cards, writing on fronts or backs, and any crease through a players face.

EvilKing00 01-10-2015 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gradedcardman (Post 1365054)
Something that is for sale but no scans !!

Or no back scans, damn some sellers sell t205's with no back scans.. Wtf lol. I will always email the seller to send me one if its a card i want. Sometimes they do sometimes they dont

rhettyeakley 01-10-2015 05:10 PM

I can deal with most anything from creases to pinholes to even some writing but the killer to me is clipped corners, I just hate the way they look.

refz 01-10-2015 05:12 PM

Drastic O/C, punch holes, bad image registrations are my turn offs, on certain occasions dealer attitudes are also a turn off.

bnorth 01-10-2015 05:17 PM

I don't mind creases, paper loss, or hole punches unless they are on the players face. I actually like the anything but round hole punched cards.

Econteachert205 01-10-2015 05:27 PM

I can't deal with trimmed cards. All I see is dishonesty when I look at them.

lug-nut 01-10-2015 06:14 PM

when i'm offered a $300 card for my $1200 card as an even trade

TexasLeaguer 01-10-2015 06:35 PM

High grade PSA cards. Too many people focused on the registry, too many altered cards, grades are too subjective and inconsistent.

slipk1068 01-10-2015 09:11 PM

I don't like dirty T206's. That and trimmed cards in high grade holders.

egbeachley 01-10-2015 11:34 PM

Sellers who use the word "rare" in their listings when it's not. I would rather it sell for 1/2 what I am willing to pay than to raise the price one increment.

the 'stache 01-11-2015 03:34 AM

It's hard to say, because I think it comes down to the individual card. I haven't gone after anything super rare or expensive--yet--so, I haven't had to worry. But trimming would be one. Writing (as opposed to a pencil mark) would probably be another. I can't buy a card with corners clipped, which is too bad, because there were a lot of really otherwise beautiful T206 cards up for sale recently with clipped corners. I saw them, and I nearly cried. I know they were probably scrapbooked, but I just feel they probably could have been removed without cutting the corners off. I could be wrong.

Anything where a card has been restore to deceive, I couldn't buy that card, either. Paper loss is usually a killer for me, too.

Of course, if it were a really rare card, who's to say?

Gradedcardman 01-11-2015 08:51 AM

DB
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by conor912 (Post 1365070)
If the seller is asking top dollar AND being a d-bag about it. If I really want a card, I am generally willing to pay you a premium, but not if you're being an a-hole in the process.

Amen brother !!! Dealing with that RIGHT NOW !!!!!

Louieman 01-11-2015 09:42 AM

Faded images. I'm cool with worn corners, creases, a little paper loss, writing, etc. but I want the front side image to be bright and crisp. Any card lacking in that is an automatic turn off for me

CurtisFlood 01-11-2015 09:32 PM

It just kills it for me when a card has been used to soak up oil spills.

kmac32 01-11-2015 11:52 PM

they have to have a presentable front of the card, minimal paper loss on the back is acceptable

K-Nole 01-12-2015 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vintagevault13 (Post 1365040)
Can't handle holes, tears, writing, paper loss, heavy creases in middle of card. I can live with corner wear and light creases.


Yep, this pretty much sums up me too, however, I can take creasing a bit.

dlfallen 01-12-2015 10:25 AM

What's a "deal breaker"?

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