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bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 05:50 PM

Has anyone had a 1975 George Brett rookie PSA 9 STOLEN from them??
 
Just curious is anyone recently had some cards stolen from them....I have info on this one.

HOF Auto Rookies 11-09-2015 05:51 PM

How would you know if it's stolen?


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bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 05:52 PM

Im asking...if you are the owner of some cards and had them stolen from you, you know what cards are missing....

HOF Auto Rookies 11-09-2015 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470701)
Im asking...if you are the owner of some cards and had them stolen from you, you know what cards are missing....


Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. Why do you believe this to be stolen?


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bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 05:58 PM

One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real.

HOF Auto Rookies 11-09-2015 05:59 PM

Ooooooooh totally makes sense. Thank you for the clarification, I hope no one had theirs stolen. :/


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Dpeck100 11-09-2015 06:33 PM

So there isn't such a thing as a good deal on EBAY?

Perhaps a seller isn't up with current market prices. Did that ever cross your mind before you started a thread about it?

Sean1125 11-09-2015 06:34 PM

Have you checked the flip and made sure it isn't bleached?

1952boyntoncollector 11-09-2015 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470705)
One recently sold on Ebay for $500 BIN. It is a $2,000 card. When one is sold that cheaply it is either a fake or hot. This one was real.

eventually this card will be a $500 dollar card..

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 06:40 PM

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Perhaps a seller isn't up with current market prices. Did that ever cross your mind before you started a thread about it?
No offense, but when a seller of Pokémon cards suddenly has a high dollar baseball card, and puts it up for 25% of its real value, then what is the most logical train of thought....fake or stolen. No offense, but if the card is indeed stolen, I think the rightful owner would like to know!! I know I would want the same consideration if I had cards stolen from me! If the card is "truly" a steal and put up by a seller who had no idea of the cards value, then I apologize. However, if you have the funds and gumption to own a George Brett rookie PSA 9, I have a hard time believing that you DO NOT know the value of that card!

PolarBear 11-09-2015 06:45 PM

Thread on CU about this.

Sean1125 11-09-2015 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470742)
No offense, but when a seller of Pokémon cards suddenly has a high dollar baseball card, and puts it up for 25% of its real value, then what is the most logical train of thought....fake or stolen. No offense, but if the card is indeed stolen, I think the rightful owner would like to know!! I know I would want the same consideration if I had cards stolen from me! If the card is "truly" a steal and put up by a seller who had no idea of the cards value, then I apologize. However, if you have the funds and gumption to own a George Brett rookie PSA 9, I have a hard time believing that you DO NOT know the value of that card!

Have you checked the flip for bleaching?

Dpeck100 11-09-2015 06:47 PM

The same seller got $1,900 for their Johnny Bench PSA 9.

$100 less then 4SC.

Why wouldn't they have sold this one at 25% of recent sales?

PWCC got $25 more 11 days prior.

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1470750)
The same seller got $1,900 for their Johnny Bench PSA 9.

$100 less the 4SC.

Why wouldn't they have sold this one at 25% of recent sales?

PWCC got $25 more 11 days prior.

I'm not analyzing every single card Mr. Pokémon has sold. I am speaking for the Brett rookie. I'm just trying to bring this to light in case someone had their collection stolen. I would hope someone would do the same for me if I had some cards stolen.

1952boyntoncollector 11-09-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470751)
I'm not analyzing every single card Mr. Pokémon has sold. I am speaking for the Brett rookie. I'm just trying to bring this to light in case someone had their collection stolen. I would hope someone would do the same for me if I had some cards stolen.

well tough to steal a brett card... psa 8 worth a loot less so it would be silly to take it out of the holder to get a new cert number unlike a mantle which can have good value even if graded lower......and if can prove a prior purchase with the cert number he could challenge the current card ...

Dpeck100 11-09-2015 06:59 PM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T3-Turk...-/262017433550


This was sold for more then the last auction.

Once again they did just fine on a sale.


I think you should have done a little more homework before essentially accusing the seller of selling stolen merchandise.

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 07:01 PM

I think you should have done a little more homework before essentially accusing the seller of selling stolen merchandise.

And I think I would want the same consideration if someone stole MY cards! If it smells like a fish......
I'm sorry...I'm just not buying that someone owns a card like that and does not know the value of it.....
You and I will have to agree to disagree on this one Dpeck.

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1470757)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T3-Turk...-/262017433550


This was sold for more then the last auction.

Once again they did just fine on a sale.


I think you should have done a little more homework before essentially accusing the seller of selling stolen merchandise.


ALR-bishop 11-09-2015 07:01 PM

Brett
 
I have not had one stolen

Leon 11-09-2015 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1470757)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1911-T3-Turk...-/262017433550


This was sold for more then the last auction.

Once again they did just fine on a sale.


I think you should have done a little more homework before essentially accusing the seller of selling stolen merchandise.

at least it's pre-war :)

pokerplyr80 11-09-2015 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1470732)
So there isn't such a thing as a good deal on EBAY?

Perhaps a seller isn't up with current market prices. Did that ever cross your mind before you started a thread about it?

Not that good. If it looks too good to be true...

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1470767)
Not that good. If it looks too good to be true...

Thank you Jesse!! Someone sees it like I do. I once found a Schon pool cue in a Pawn Shop for $150. I couldn't pull the money out of my pocket fast enough. Long story short, I was constantly looking over my shoulder when I shot with it. Sure enough, some man cornered me in a bar thinking I stole his cue from him. I got lucky to get the $150 I paid for it back, but felt bad that he had to buy back his own cue. If a seller truly owns a card of that caliber, he doesn't sell it for pennies on the dollar. When he has nothing it in, then whatever he gets is good. Anyway, I'm just doing my part in case this card belongs to someone else. Nothing gets my blood boiling like a thief.

Mountaineer1999 11-09-2015 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470772)
Thank you Jesse!! Someone sees it like I do. I once found a Schon pool cue in a Pawn Shop for $150. I couldn't pull the money out of my pocket fast enough. Long story short, I was constantly looking over my shoulder when I shot with it. Sure enough, some man cornered me in a bar thinking I stole his cue from him. I got lucky to get the $150 I paid for it back, but felt bad that he had to buy back his own cue. If a seller truly owns a card of that caliber, he doesn't sell it for pennies on the dollar. When he has nothing it in, then whatever he gets is good. Anyway, I'm just doing my part in case this card belongs to someone else. Nothing gets my blood boiling like a thief.

So he paid you for his own cue stick? That would be an odd move from a guy that seconds before was about to pound you.

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999 (Post 1470777)
So he paid you for his own cue stick? That would be an odd move from a guy that seconds before was about to pound you.

I didn't steal it...I bought it at a Pawn shop. I had no proof that it was his, and he had no proof that I stole it. We took each others word as to what the truth was and worked it out between us.

bobbyw8469 11-09-2015 07:36 PM

What if the Brett turns out to be stolen and the rightful owner wants it back? Should the person who bought it on Ebay be out his $500?

1952boyntoncollector 11-09-2015 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470781)
I didn't steal it...I bought it at a Pawn shop. I had no proof that it was his, and he had no proof that I stole it. We took each others word as to what the truth was and worked it out between us.

worked it out meaning I wont destroy you with my fists if I pay you $150 and forgive the much much larger debt I owe you for the last 4 games because you are a ringer..

DBesse27 11-10-2015 09:29 AM

Isn't this in the wrong forum?

Joshchisox08 11-10-2015 09:35 AM

Why is everyone trying to question someone trying to do something good for a fellow collector ???

Republicaninmass 11-10-2015 09:36 AM

No good deed...

slidekellyslide 11-10-2015 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470781)
I didn't steal it...I bought it at a Pawn shop. I had no proof that it was his, and he had no proof that I stole it. We took each others word as to what the truth was and worked it out between us.

I have no idea what that pool cue is worth, but seems odd that you would just take some dude's word for it that it was his. You rightfully bought it.

pokerplyr80 11-10-2015 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1470788)
What if the Brett turns out to be stolen and the rightful owner wants it back? Should the person who bought it on Ebay be out his $500?

I'm no lawyer, but I believe the answer is yes he would be. Even if stolen property is legally acquired later it still belongs to the person it was stolen from.

Whether or not Ebay would refund the money and eat the $500 is another issue.

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshchisox08 (Post 1470989)
Why is everyone trying to question someone trying to do something good for a fellow collector ???

Josh...I have yet to understand it myself. Weird hobby we have here. Anyway, in regards to the Brett, maybe it was really a case of a seller not knowing what he had? I doubt it though. If too much time has passed, maybe the original owner wrote the card off long ago.

Leon 11-10-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DBesse27 (Post 1470982)
Isn't this in the wrong forum?

A few off topic posts are permitted by regular contributors. The further off topic the less they should be. That's my take anyway.

slidekellyslide 11-10-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1471011)
Josh...I have yet to understand it myself. Weird hobby we have here. Anyway, in regards to the Brett, maybe it was really a case of a seller not knowing what he had? I doubt it though. If too much time has passed, maybe the original owner wrote the card off long ago.

Do you have a link to the sale on ebay? I couldn't find it in completed listings.

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide (Post 1471065)
Do you have a link to the sale on ebay? I couldn't find it in completed listings.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1975-Topps-G...361?rmvSB=true

pokerplyr80 11-10-2015 01:19 PM

Did anyone else notice this guy's listing for the 48 leaf joe DiMaggio? It's in an SGC case but the photo doesn't show the flip or grade. However a sticker on the card does. I guess we're supposed to just take his word for it? Something is off with this listing and seller in general. I would be very surprised if anyone is actually getting that 75 Brett for $500.

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1471080)
Did anyone else notice this guy's listing for the 48 leaf joe DiMaggio? It's in an SGC case but the photo doesn't show the flip or grade. However a sticker on the card does. I guess we're supposed to just take his word for it? Something is off with this listing and seller in general. I would be very surprised if anyone is actually getting that 75 Brett for $500.

The person already got it and PSA updated the case to the newer one with the hologram.

sbfinley 11-10-2015 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1471080)
Did anyone else notice this guy's listing for the 48 leaf joe DiMaggio? It's in an SGC case but the photo doesn't show the flip or grade. However a sticker on the card does. I guess we're supposed to just take his word for it? Something is off with this listing and seller in general. I would be very surprised if anyone is actually getting that 75 Brett for $500.

The Brett was received long ago and has ever been reviewed by PSA to rule out tampering. This auction ended months ago. Not sure why it's a a story on this forum now.

Dpeck100 11-10-2015 01:25 PM

This thread was created the exact same day when the board member from CU got it back from PSA in the new case confirming it was real.

He posted the win October 14th and many were skeptical of its authenticity.

There are numerous comments discussing the pricing of his other cards and they all point to a collector who had not looked at current prices. Some were high and some were low.

The bottom line is the card was shipped quickly from the seller with no issues and the card was reholdered and the buyer hit a home run.

pokerplyr80 11-10-2015 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1471081)
The person already got it and PSA updated the case to the newer one with the hologram.

I must have missed something in this thread. So you or someone you know purchased this card, and then you started a thread asking if anyone had their 75 Brett stolen? Just asking for clarification.

Dpeck100 11-10-2015 01:29 PM

Bobby saw the win confirmed on CU and decided to start a thread asking if anyone had a PSA 9 George Brett stolen.

I have only posted a few times on this forum but have been on CU for quite awhile and this is just par for the course.

pokerplyr80 11-10-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1471088)
Bobby saw the win confirmed on CU and decided to start a thread asking if anyone had a PSA 9 George Brett stolen.

I have only posted a few times on this forum but have been on CU for quite awhile and this is just par for the course.

I see. Well apparently there are very good deals available on ebay once in a while despite my earlier post to the contrary. Someone certainly did hit a homerun with this one.

If it really was just an honest mistake by the seller in regards to the price it sure was an expensive one and I'm sure he or she will do a little more research next time.

glchen 11-10-2015 01:36 PM

I really don't have an issue with this thread being posted. If the card wasn't stolen, what's the big deal? If it was, then it's good news to the original owner. Isn't there still some Willie Mays card that got stolen from Rob Schneider?

Dpeck100 11-10-2015 01:37 PM

All of the auctions I posted were from the sellers feedback and they were priced more in line with current prices and buyers left positive feedback.

My experience has been when someone posts a win on CU others will quickly email the seller to either get them to sell them the card for more or to tamper with the buyers win and get the seller to relist it at a higher price.

It is probable that if this happened they looked at completed listings and priced their cards more in line with the current market.

There are many collectors who own cards and do not care to establish an EBAY account and get others to sell their cards for them. That could have easily occurred here.

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dpeck100 (Post 1471088)
Bobby saw the win confirmed on CU and decided to start a thread asking if anyone had a PSA 9 George Brett stolen.

I have only posted a few times on this forum but have been on CU for quite awhile and this is just par for the course.

David...I feel like a broken record with you. If someone stole some cards from ME, I would want the same consideration. I'm sorry if you think it is, but selling a $2,000 card for $500 is NOT normal! When I hear of that going on, my mind automatically thinks fake or stolen.

And yes...Rob Schneider has a Willie Mays rookie stolen. Probably sold on the black market for $200.

irishdenny 11-10-2015 02:44 PM

THankS FiR CariN Mr. Williams..."TRuLy!!!"

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 02:49 PM

You are welcome...anytime.

Joshchisox08 11-10-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glchen (Post 1471091)
I really don't have an issue with this thread being posted. If the card wasn't stolen, what's the big deal? If it was, then it's good news to the original owner. Isn't there still some Willie Mays card that got stolen from Rob Schneider?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFLuIn6lj5g

DBesse27 11-10-2015 07:00 PM

Dpeck is right. There are several meddling people on CU who can't stand it if somebody gets a great deal. Bobby has a penchant for stirring up drama, which is why he was perma-banned over there.

When I see a card sell at far below market value, my first thought is that the seller was uninformed and the buyer had fortuitous timing. I don't take to an Internet message board to say the buyer is in receipt of stolen goods, and I certainly don't dredge up this stuff 4 weeks after the sale.

bobbyw8469 11-10-2015 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DBesse27 (Post 1471258)
Dpeck is right. There are several meddling people on CU who can't stand it if somebody gets a great deal. Bobby has a penchant for stirring up drama, which is why he was perma-banned over there.

When I see a card sell at far below market value, my first thought is that the seller was uninformed and the buyer had fortuitous timing. I don't take to an Internet message board to say the buyer is in receipt of stolen goods, and I certainly don't dredge up this stuff 4 weeks after the sale.


DPeck IS NOT right....you can't tell me that someone owns a card of that magnitude and has NO CLUE what it is worth!!! The majority of his cards are Pokemon cards for crying out loud!! I am sorry, but if it smells like a fish.....

MULLINS5 11-10-2015 07:22 PM

I think it's possible that the card is stolen. Pokemon cards...maybe it's a kid who stole some of dad's baseball cards? Maybe housekeepers pocketed it while doing the laundry. Who knows? It doesn't hurt to inform the public in case it's a hot item. No need to pile onto the OP for this.


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