Who spilled blue ink all over my 1976 high numbers?
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Back in the good old days of eBay when they used to let you know who all of the other bidders are and let you talk to each other, I got to know a fellow print error collector who told me that when he mail ordered a 1976 Topps baseball set back in 1976 the set he received had around 200 of the cards with a flaw of varying degrees of blue dots on them. At first he was dissatisfied with them and thought about returning the cards, but over the years he was glad he didn't because he got into printing error cards. He showed me several scans of his and I was hooked immediately. The problem was, at that time years ago I could hardly find any of them and got frustrated and gave up. A couple of years ago a seller on eBay had a bunch of them so I got back into looking for them and they started popping up everywhere. All of them are from the last two sheets of the set from 1976, they are all cards #400 and up except for the Record Breaker cards and the team cards which Topps decided to put on the high number sheets. The ones shown are the most afflicted cards, most of them have only a few stray blue dots. There should be cards of J. R. Richard and Joe Decker with heavy blue dots but I haven't been able to find them. Not all cards on the two sheets have blue dots.
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Roland Chapdelaine wrote an article back in the day about his adventures in trying to become a full time dealer and talks about how many dealers with vend cases got buried when these unusable cards appeared in their vend boxes in 1976. It was a hilarious read at the time
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That's some serious ink spatter.
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I have decided there is a devious side to Cliff. He uncovers these related recurring print anomalies, documents them, and for good measure will send you a few examples clearly intended to suck you into the hunt for the rest...however many there may be.
All seriousness aside, Cliff has been great at running down recurring related print defects, sharing his knowledge of them and then helping folks who are interested frun them down....well he has been a big help to me anyway |
The more I look at these, the more I think it's not ink spatter. If it was and was as bad as it looks, it should extend into and across the borders.
But it doesn't. |
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It's a puzzle.
What would have been done would be a pasteup original of the cards (Or the photos), which got photographed through color filters and a screen. Each color for CMYK would get it's own negative, so blue spatter inside a blue area like the Aaron RB wouldn't be a surprise. Any spatter of anything on the blue negative or the original would turn up on the plate. But spatter on the negative should turn up as white spots. At the shop I worked for, the camera guy once shot an entire job right after both a liquid lunch and "cleaning" the camera room - which mostly stirred up dust. I got to spend a couple days in the stripping department finding spots and fixing them with some stuff like red whiteout. And that was nowhere near as bad as these cards. I suspect some spatter in the developing of the negatives that left blank spots on the blue negative. It's pretty bad they let that through. |
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It's been a loooooong time since I found one of these, mainly because I haven't looked, but a Joe Decker popped up. There should be similar examples of J R Richard and Fernando Arroyo because of their placement on the sheet but I haven't been able to find either one.
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These are great, the kind of odd defects I love to see.
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Wow, glad these are posted...about a dozen years ago I bought a complete mint set on ebay that was advertised as coalated from vender lots. I was super impressed with the condition...set is outstanding....except the nasty blue ink on the back half! Some are insane...ive been meaning to ask here and was going to post some pics. Just cool to see there is an actual story...my plan was to replace them...
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I have a bunch, and several that are severe. I also have JR and Decker...here are those -
https://i.ibb.co/cFRMC0v/76-Decker.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Ln1jKnT/76-Richards.jpg If your willing to send me back "normal" untainted cards I will trade you straight up. Send me a list of what your looking for, I'd be glad to exchange. I'm not a big "print" defect collector so all good here. I'm the idiot that would exchange a 90 Frank Thomas no name for a regular one...haha... |
My Fernando Arroyo is actually clean...only he and Tom Hall on that page are clean, rest have blue dots with Darold Knowles so bad its almost all blue...lol
https://i.ibb.co/dKFgY6J/76-Fernando.jpg |
Here are the cards I have with blue ink, some light but noticeable and there, some pretty thick...and * denotes extreme...hope this list helps.
17 (Edit) Yankees Team 555 Dyar Miller 559 Clyde Wright 569 Nelson Briles 571 Don Demola 573 Bill Taveres 580 Bert Campaneris * 581 Cardinals Team 589 Rookies (all the RC's are light, but there) 590 Rookies 592 Rookies (Randolph) 594 Rookies 596 Rookies 597 Rookies 603 Jim Holt 604 Joe Lovito 605 Al Downing 609 Fred Norman * 610 Greg Luzinski 613 Tim Johnson 615 Mike Cubbage 616 Buck Martinez* 617 Darold Knowles* 618 Jack Brohamer 619 Bill Butler 620 Al Oliver 622 Rick Auerbach 623 Bob Allietta 624 Tony Taylor 625 JR Richard 626 Bob Sheldon 628 John D'Aquiston* 630 Chris Speier 636 Joe Decker 637 Bruce Bochte 638 Doyle Alexander 639 Fred Kendall 640 Bill Madlock 642 Dennis Blair 645 Darrell Porter* 649 Dave Roberts 650 Thurman Munson 651 John Odom 652 Ed Armbrister 655 Mike Vail* 656 White Sox 657 Roy Smalley 659 Ben Oglivie* 660 Dave Lopes |
That’s awesome! I definitely need J R Richard and there are some I wasn’t aware of like Thurman Munson, I will need to go through what I have tonight to see who all I need.
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Cliff you are correct...it's the YANKESS #17, not the Mets. Here it is -
https://i.ibb.co/vsyXPbT/76-Yankees.jpg |
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Here are the highlights (or lowlights :rolleyes:) of the haul I got from harliduck (John Otto), he was happy to unload them and I was happy to take them :D.
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This was the first set I ordered as a 12 year-old. I ordered them from Renata Glasson virtually the whole set was spattered like this. It was the last time I ordered a set from them.
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Mike- if only you had a time machine you could go back and save all those blue dots for Cliff… and me. Wait until they catch on and the value soars in the years to come 😎. Goes to show the lack of foresight in 9 and 12 year olds
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As said, just really cool that I had something that two collectors I have admired for a long time were interested in. Cool deal... |
Wow great thread. Those cards are trippy. I think the 76 set is underrated to put it mildly. Great design and miles better than the much ballyhooed 75 set to put it less mildly.
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Nice Fernando Cliff!! I was bummed I didn't have that one...
Just noticed that the blue dots extend down to his name...crazy |
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