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michael3322 05-16-2024 08:45 PM

Baseball’s ‘Forgotten’ Super Slugger
 
Just wanted to call out a wonderful SABR article written by Tom Ferraro

Jimmie Foxx: Baseball’s ‘Forgotten’ Super Slugger

"Foxx is the greatest batsman in major league baseball today. There’s no question about that. He’s a swell fellow—well-liked by the players and the fans. In fact, he’s such a nice kid, I was kind of sorry for him when he came so close to the record and missed.”
- Babe Ruth

Lifetime Stats
Batting average .325
Hits 2,646
Home runs 534
Runs batted in 1,922

Career highlights and awards
9× All-Star (1933–1941)
2× World Series champion (1929, 1930)
3× AL MVP (1932, 1933, 1938)
Triple Crown (1933)
2× AL batting champion (1933, 1938)
4× AL home run leader (1932, 1933, 1935, 1939)
3× AL RBI leader (1932, 1933, 1938)

It is still hard to believe that someone with this stat line got into the HoF on his 7th ballot, instead of earlier!

https://sabrweb.b-cdn.net/wp-content...AM-705x428.png

Oddly, both he and his wife died in the same bizarre way - by choking on food.

"Foxx died in 1967 at age 59 in Miami, Florida. He became ill while eating dinner with his brother and was taken to a hospital where resuscitative efforts failed. An autopsy showed that Foxx had choked on a piece of food. The year before, Foxx's second wife, Dorothy, had also died of choking." Wikipedia

And finally a card...

https://cconnect.s3.amazonaws.com/wp...x-196x300.jpeg

Casey2296 05-16-2024 08:58 PM

Nice post and thanks for the reminder, Foxx has always been under appreciated much like Mel Ott, I think it was the strange 30!s-40's era that seems to get lost on how good these guys were.

Exhibitman 05-16-2024 09:09 PM

The Beast...29th all time in WAR for position players (92.2). I think he gets lost because he was Lou Gehrig's contemporary (113.76 WAR in three fewer seasons).

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ize/Foxx_1.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...by%20Burke.png

https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...20Hartnett.jpg

DeanH3 05-16-2024 09:46 PM

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A Beast indeed. Very under rated. Did he actually break Babes record in 1932 due to his "lost" Home Runs? We will never know but it's cool to ponder.

brianp-beme 05-16-2024 10:01 PM

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Here is my favorite scan of a Foxx card, where Jimmie takes second billing (if being on the right is considered second billing) to Hall of Fame player Joe Cronin on this Double Play card.

Brian

doug.goodman 05-17-2024 04:04 AM

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Scored program from his 34th HR of the season (336th career) on the August 23, 1936 in the first game of a doubleheader at Yankees Stadium. He knocked in all 3 runs the Red Sox managed to score that day while the Yankees scored 5 with the help of Gehrig's 40th of the year and rookie Joe DiMaggio's 22nd.

BillyCoxDodgers3B 05-17-2024 04:52 AM

Forgotten? Ridiculous.

Outside of the hugest names in the game's history, I'd hardly expect somebody not interested in the subject matter to know every single former superstar. Foxx is no exception. Everyone with the slightest interest is very much aware. They also wouldn't know Walter Johnson, Matty, etc., and are only familiar with Wagner due to the card. <--- Oops, just named some of the biggest names in the game's history! So, they'd know Ruth for being a great player. Chances are more likely they know Gehrig due to his affliction rather than his talents.

tiger8mush 05-17-2024 06:11 AM

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ready for battle

Seven 05-17-2024 06:19 AM

Will gladly post my card contributions to the Jimmie Foxx thread once I get home. "The Beast" is definitely overlooked. Doesn't help that his direct competition, and greatest 1st basemen of all time, Lou Gehrig, played during the same time he did. Foxx was also very versatile. Had stints playing 3rd base, Catcher and even pitched a few times towards the end of his career.

He captured a triple crown and was a three time MVP, which in my opinion was even more impressive considering the time he played in and how the MVP was voted on back in his day. It's a shame that his health issues torpedoed his career as he had a very legitimate shot at Ruth's all time home run record.

He's also is criminally undervalued in our hobby, in my amateur opinion.

BabyRuth 05-17-2024 06:52 AM

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A group of foxes are called a leash, skulk or earth.
Here is my skulk!!!!

Beercan collector 05-17-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by michael3322 (Post 2434982)
It is still hard to believe that someone with this stat line got into the HoF on his 7th ballot, instead of earlier!

What the heck ?

BillyCoxDodgers3B 05-17-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 2435039)
ready for battle


Used to own an autographed version of this pose but on a different card (I think it was called a leather finish? BCornell kindly helped me identify the issue many years ago.)

MikeGarcia 05-17-2024 07:47 AM

. The photogs loved him.
 
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...X_0002_NEW.JPG

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cgjackson222 05-17-2024 09:11 AM

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My two Double Xs

Lucas00 05-17-2024 11:11 AM

Smiling https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5aba41334f.jpg

doug.goodman 05-17-2024 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas00 (Post 2435119)

Damn Lucas! That's a mic drop.

Lucas00 05-17-2024 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2435137)
Damn Lucas! That's a mic drop.

Thanks to the Snap master, Gary S for letting me acquire it! If mine is this nice I can't imagine Gary's keeper.

doug.goodman 05-17-2024 01:52 PM

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It's hard to follow a mic drop, but I'll take a shot at it.

Opening Day April 17 1945 in Brooklyn, Jimmie gets his first hit with the Phillies coming in as a pinch hitter in the 7th, moving the runner (who eventually scored) to 3rd.

https://sabr.org/gamesproj/game/apri...over-phillies/

JollyElm 05-17-2024 02:25 PM

Does anyone have an origin story for the Jimmy vs. Jimmie debacle?

How his name was spelled both ways (on cards), seemingly starting more as "Jimmy" but then transitioning into the finality of "Jimmie" over time?

Jimmy/Jimmie is a nickname. Specifically, a diminutive form of the name James, so it's not actually his legal name and therefore has no 'correct' spelling. (It reminds me of a girl I knew named Patricia who everyone called Patty...but when I wrote her name down that way she got got mad and said, "I spell my name with an 'i' at the end!")
Did he simply prefer the 'ie' spelling over the more common 'y' spelling, or were there other reasons for his name being spelled that way??

Is there any info on this, because this is the type of thing that keeps me awake at night!!!

cgjackson222 05-17-2024 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JollyElm (Post 2435160)
Does anyone have an origin story for the Jimmy vs. Jimmie debacle?


It's confusing. If he wanted to go by "Jimmie" then why did he sign his name as "Jimmy"?

I can't find any information about the differences in name choices. It may be lost to history.

Now a shameless plug for a quiz about Gehrig vs. Foxx:https://www.sporcle.com/games/cgjack...-or-lou-gehrig

h2oya311 05-17-2024 03:38 PM

“Die cut” photo of Jimmie during his time with Easton c1924:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...924%20Foxx.jpg

h2oya311 05-17-2024 03:41 PM

And a few George Burke stamps of the “7th time’s a charm”:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...-37%20Foxx.jpg
https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...cs%20Panel.jpg

Leon 05-17-2024 03:44 PM

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Some tattoos..

cgjackson222 05-17-2024 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by h2oya311 (Post 2435182)
“Die cut” photo of Jimmie during his time with Easton c1924:

https://photos.imageevent.com/derekg...924%20Foxx.jpg

Wow, awesome image! Probably taken not much longer after Foxx was discovered by Home Run Baker in the Eastern Shore of Maryland.

carlsonjok 05-17-2024 06:36 PM

As usual, my contributions are all post-war, but this probably one of the cornerstones of my collection:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...6/IMG_0149.jpg

BearBailey 05-17-2024 06:54 PM

One of the all time Great Maryland born hall of famers.

Deertick 05-17-2024 11:42 PM

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Those biceps tho...

Seven 05-18-2024 11:10 AM

My contributions to this thread. A Butterfinger Premium of Foxx and a 1933 Goudey. The Goudey was picked up on the cheap as the previous owner how ever many years ago taped the entire card for "preservation" Not even sure one of the companies would slab it.

https://i.imgur.com/TqCuM87.png?1

https://i.imgur.com/30tb2gF.png?1

jingram058 05-18-2024 04:38 PM

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As always, I'm late to the dance. Oh well, here's my Jimmie Foxx items. Had to find them. I have more in scrapbooks but I would have to dig them out. My dad, who grew up in the era of 1930s baseball, rated Jimmie Foxx right up there with Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. The 1929-30-31 Philadelphia Athletics are one of MLB's greatest teams of all-time.

Big Red Machine 05-18-2024 07:13 PM

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These are the two that I have.

cgjackson222 05-18-2024 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Red Machine (Post 2435407)
These are the two that I have.

Love that image! The clarity on the 5x7 Premium is outstanding!

michael3322 05-18-2024 11:54 PM

Amazing cards/photos/programs. Thanks for sharing.

Thought this modern card creation by Topps was interesting for highlighting the Jimmy vs. Jimmie issue...

https://www.tcdb.com/Images/Large/Ba...15754809Fr.jpg
https://www.tcdb.com/Images/Large/Ba...15754809Bk.jpg

There are 64 pages in the card gallery for Foxx at the Trading Card Database.

Marckus99 05-21-2024 06:51 PM

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‘36 Spencer Shoes Premium

doug.goodman 05-21-2024 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by michael3322 (Post 2435445)
There are 64 pages in the card gallery for Foxx at the Trading Card Database

And none of them include his multiple m114 releases.

Sorry, occasionally my snarkiness takes control,
Doug

Leon 05-22-2024 10:49 AM

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More Foxx....

GasHouseGang 05-22-2024 03:46 PM

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I went on a Foxx hunt a found a couple.


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