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Archive 02-03-2004 08:28 AM

1 of 1 T205 joss RARE!
 
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p> <br> <br> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=2784207140&amp;cat egory=31719&amp;sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&amp;r d=1<br><br> <br> How much worse could this have been trimmed?

Archive 02-03-2004 08:33 AM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

Archive 02-03-2004 08:39 AM

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Posted By: <b>dave m</b><p> It looks like the first ever die cut.

Archive 02-03-2004 08:51 AM

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Posted By: <b>Rob L</b><p>It actually looks like a a piece of a T202 triple folder. It's fairly common that the T202 are trimmed and sold as T205.

Archive 02-03-2004 08:56 AM

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Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Actually, Joss wasn't in the t202 set...

Archive 02-03-2004 09:03 AM

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Posted By: <b>Rob L</b><p>Thanks. I stand corrected.

Archive 02-03-2004 09:04 AM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>I have the t205 Joss, too. Also, almost the whole T202 set--Ben's right--unfortunately, there's no Joss.

Archive 02-03-2004 09:14 AM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Dots of missing paper (or pigment) on face and interior of card seem very regularly spaced...spot of missing color above the right-side printing reminds me of...my card! As does the color distribution on the mouth (indiosyncratic to indivisual cards...)<BR><BR>

Archive 02-03-2004 09:16 AM

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Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31 719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784207140&category=31 719&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBWA%3AIT&rd=1</a>

Archive 02-03-2004 09:32 AM

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Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Do you mean to tell me you typed out that ENTIRE URL??? Ok, for next time, simply highlight the URL, then press ctrl-C (copy). Then, go to your address bar at the top of your screen (where it says http://) and press ctrl-V (paste) and then enter.

Archive 02-03-2004 09:36 AM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>The mouth and the dot on my card are different. Also: the transitions between colors are smoother. I believe it's a fake (such as it is!)

Archive 02-03-2004 02:03 PM

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>If your girlfriend is ever looking at your Cobbs and says "I'd like a blue one", you could be ready to meet her needs!<BR><BR><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784934515&category=31 719" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2784934515&category=31 719</a>

Archive 02-03-2004 02:39 PM

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I love the "...will go well with you other reproductions." LMAO!!!!<BR><BR>Jay

Archive 02-03-2004 02:56 PM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Seller of the "blue" Cobb clearly states that's it's a reproduction and "one of a kind.'" (well, maybe that's a little of an oximoron)LOL (that's the only one I know.

Archive 02-03-2004 03:44 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Julie,<BR><BR>Indications of laughing using web-speak can take many forms:<BR><BR>LOL - Laugh out Loud<BR>ROFL - Rolling on Floor Laughing<BR>LMAO - Laugh My Ass Off<BR><BR>Dave<BR><BR>

Archive 02-03-2004 04:21 PM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>David Rudd's post ("early photographers list") about watching the superbowl next Sunday made me LMAO!

Archive 02-03-2004 06:19 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Here's a card that is one end of a T202. Check out the cut on the right. Looks like a pretty clean tear against a straight edge. I don't see how this could ever pass as a T205. Much smaller (same size as the inside?), missing the gold, and the back is different - doesn't say series 400. Also missing team symbol and letter.<BR><BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075774664.JPG">

Archive 02-03-2004 06:37 PM

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Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>I know there are some admirers of the T202 set on the board, but I've always thought that, instead of that "revolutionary' tri-fold design, that the T202's end panels would have made a great set without the middle b/w section and its fellow mate on the other side. Just think, a regular tobacco card size that combines both the white borders of the T206 with the great portrait art and decorative backgrounds of the T205. <BR><BR>Of course, you can collect such a set just by checking out ebay for all the identified (and non-identified) panels--and it wouldn't cost you an arm and a leg. But my guess it would still be quite a challenge.<BR><BR>Brian

Archive 02-03-2004 06:50 PM

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>sorry - couldn't resist. <BR><BR>The first tobacco card I ever saw, other than photos of the famous t206 green portrait Cobb and t205 Cobb, was a t206 Dan McGann - fairly boring, but enought to get me interested. Next I purchased a "3 piece" t202 with ends separate - Jennings and McGraw. To me, this was absolutely the coolest card I had ever seen. I couldn't see how it's being cut up could be a bad thing - if I was a kid and had a pile of these, I think I would have cut them up almost immediately.<BR>

Archive 02-03-2004 07:36 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>L M A O

Archive 02-03-2004 07:57 PM

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>A picture is (s0ometimes)worth a bunch of words. Great<BR>black-and-white photography, plus the beautiful lithography of the T205 set.<BR><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075780155.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1075780207.JPG">

Archive 02-03-2004 08:16 PM

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Julie,<BR> <BR>Beautiful cards. <BR><BR>I wish my T205's were near the quality of my Johnson (the card, of course). This card came as part of an original collection from a relative that smoked (a long time ago, in Virginia). This story truely includes a trunk in the attic of the original collector. None of my cards have ever been sold. I lost my collector's virginity this last weekend and bought my first ever card (on ebay), so when it arrives I will have one card that was purchased. My wife is worried about the budget for my new hobby. Imagine that. We'll work through that. <BR><BR>I have no idea what happened to the rest of this T202. It is really too bad.

Archive 02-03-2004 08:32 PM

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Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>That Wood panel on the T202 is a beautiful piece of art. I love how it seems to have captured ol' Smokey's questioning gaze, complete with slightly cocked head. The T205 set sure missed out on this card.<BR><BR>Brian

Archive 02-03-2004 11:55 PM

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Posted By: <b>Jonathan Perry</b><p>Greetings,<BR><BR>I am the seller of the T205 Joss which some are commenting on item # 2784207140.<BR><BR>I have had nothing but positive transactions with several members of this board for the last few years.<BR><BR>I am curious to know why individuals suggest the card is a reprint yet not a single person has contacted me directly for an additional scan or asked a question.<BR><BR>As many of you know I have dealt with hundreds of T205s over the last year or two. Including the sale of 5 T205 Joss cards.<BR><BR>Sure the card is trimmed, it is being sold as a filler for a collector who just wants the card and maybe can not afford a $400-$1000 Joss card. <BR><BR>To my knowledge the card is an original T205, and for anyone who believes differently if you win the card and have a few "experts" examine it I will be more than happy to provide a full refund.<BR><BR>Good luck to anyone who participates in the auction,

Archive 02-04-2004 05:37 AM

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Jonathan - only Julie commented with the opinion that the card was a fake. My thought was that it's real, which is also what common sense dictates given its condition, but I did not see the point in contradicting Julie. Others who know you and can also vouch for your integrity probably felt the same way.<BR><BR><BR>

Archive 02-04-2004 06:04 AM

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>It may well be real--it was just that I noticed a big difference between the way your card moves from one color to the next and the way mine does (bought it off "grays")---the transitions in yours are rougher.<BR><BR>But everyone knows that poor condition is no sure sign of authenticity--sellers doctor their fakes by roughing them up for sale as well!<BR><BR> Nothing's certain but death and Lipset. (How'd HE get into this?)<BR><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>


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