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Posted By: <b>Adam J. Baxter</b><p>I usually have little interest in the grading controversies, as I own virtually zero graded cards, but when I saw this on Ebay I couldn't keep it to myself.<br /><br />How the f*** did this snag a VG 3 ? I wouldn't grade this any higher then Fair or Good due to the damage on the front. Am I wrong or did PSA miss the boat on this one?<br /><br /><img src="http://i12.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/5a/b5/b9_1_b.JPG"><br />

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>ALL they looked at were the corners and if there were any creases. If you didn't look at the image it is a vg....reminds of the ghost images of OJ's that SGC sometimes calls excellent. You can't see the darn player but those corners are nice and there's no creases.....must be an ex.....wait, where's the player? Oh well....slab it......

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Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>I saw this card earlier today on ebay and I had the same reaction...

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>and she's dead.<br /><br />A really nice card with a tiny bit of paper loss on the front might pull a vg (I have a couple like this) but one with a big streak down the front and a paper pull? WTF is that company doing?

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Posted By: <b>Bob Marquette</b><p>Can you tell from the serial number if this is an old grade or a recent one? Just curious. The grade is horrible. I have PSA 1s which look EXMT next to this one!

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Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>ok so they missed this one, but guess what, they still collected $6 to $10 grading it and graded 4 times as many cards that hour than any other grading service!

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>I can't believe I'm doing this (i.e., defending PSA), but I think it's odd that the image doesn't show the edges of the case -- it is possible this is an amateur break-out/reholder job.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>I suppose you could break out a common low grade Obak from a holder, but why? The cert number comes up with the correct card -<br /><br />This is one nice feature about PSA - you can easily research the cert nubmers. I've never tried it with SGC or GAI. I hope you can do the same for the other two because I'd actually hate to think I said something nice about PSA because I don't really care for them that much.

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Posted By: <b>Mike P.</b><p>I know that SGC does not openly have that feature. I use a backdoor method that I won't share because SGC doesn't like the fact I figured it out. Coincidentally, I did email Scott Hersh today suggesting he do something about implementing that on the site. I am not sure if GAI does though.

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>PSA has never been that nice to me. I always get the proverbial rubber glove

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>I was going to bid on it... I've never bought anything from this seller, but I've corresponded with him in the past about Jewish players/cards...he's a nice guy & was very helpful with some questions I had.<br /><br />Alan

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Hey Anson, Next time send in your cards saying they are from the Mr. Z collection and you are sure to get a grade or 2 bump on your cards. <br /><br />I have officially proclaimed my collection Mr. Bowlingshoegiverouterguy collection. That would look cool across the holder and have much more prestige than "Mr. X". <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Lee<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>because the player is almost obscured by ink, pencil, tears or other additions.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Julie, good point, even I wouldn't want that card in my collection and my standards are pretty low.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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Posted By: <b>Bob C</b><p>Take a look at this.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57993&item=5210715 582&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57993&item=5210715 582&rd=1</a>

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Posted By: <b>will watson</b><p><img src="http://www.qualitycards.com/pictures/81562653.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>there are stains and there are stains. That Obak has a huge, almost oily looking stain running right down the middle of the card, obscuring the face and pretty much destroying all visual appeal of the card. Throw in paper loss by his crotch, and you've got a 1. That Joss does not suffer from any of those deficiencies, and still only got a 2.<br /><br />More troubling is the CJ that Bob posted--no way that should get a 40 with that corner clipped off, IMHO.

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Posted By: <b>David H</b><p>that Joss is a Polar Bear back, many of which have staining. I think that card is graded fine.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I agree on the Joss, grading appears fine. But as far as the CJ, that corner is clipped and should've been rejected. Like many other board members, I've had a card or cards kicked back from SGC for lesser.<br /><br />Brian

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>That CJ grade is troubling.<br />Unfriggingbelievable.

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Posted By: <b>will watson</b><p>Todd, <br /><br />i wasn't defending either grading company, it was merely an observation that cards with staining can grade higher than a one. <br /><br />however, i didn't notice the crotch disaster on the Obak. i'll admit its a terrible overgrade on PSA's part

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>As I've said before all companies make mistakes, it's how they handle their errors that differentiates them. Why isn't PSA and SGC buying back those two horribly graded cards? FWIW, i think the Joss is graded correctly.

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Posted By: <b>Rick</b><p><img src="http://image.inkfrog.com/pix/ironmatt61/1915CJClarkeF.jpg"><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>I have issues with the Clarke. However, I think the Joss is accurately graded. SGCs standards do allow for some staining with SGC 30. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>This guy must have learned how to grade from that Cooney card - ignore the card, just look at the corners. EX???<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60488&item=5204097 661&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60488&item=5204097 661&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V</a>