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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>When it comes to collecting low end PSA slabbed T206's, what is actually the average market place price to expect to pay for these cards?<br />I know T206 museum lists these numbers....just wanting to verify what is accurate and what isnt..<br />American Beauty 2X.....meaning a PSA 2 common that would normally run $32 I should expect to pay $60?<br /><br />Carolina Brights 5X<br />Cycle 350 2X<br />EPDG 1.3X<br />Hindu Brown 4X<br />Tolstoi 2X<br />

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>that's the way I interpret the scale! i think those multipliers are pretty accurate except for epdg which should probably be 3-4X.<br /><br />pete ullman

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Thats what I find so puzzling....I have a meager total of 17 T206's now on my registry. I have one EPDG, a nice looking front, its a PSA 2, I picked it up for about $32 I think....I have one Cycle 350, also with a PSA 2...that I picked up for $25 (even though it looks rough for a 2. I also have one Sleaguer in as bad of shape as they come, with a brown hindu that I don't plan to keep because its not a portrait. But none the less, I haven't paid any of those premiums as of yet....just curious why

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i think you paid correctly for your cycle and epdg...the hindu sleaguer is kinda scarce but beat to piss is probably worth 25-35...i'd guess.<br /><br />pete

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Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p> I will buy all of the beat up Hindu's; Southern Leaguer or not for 25-35 bucks. In fact I'll gladly pay more than that. Send scans and emails and the checks will hit the mail.<br /><br /> Be well Brian<br /><br />Don't get too caught up in the superset study, as it is far from complete. It's far too early to reasign back values on the basis of the 15-20,000 cards that have been studied so far.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>in your original post you stated epdg's should go 3x or 4x the usual....that would mean on a 2 it should have sold for $75-$100 or no?

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Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>are psa 2 commons going for 20-25? Where have I been?<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>I paid $25.30 for the Hoffman PSA 2 Cycle 350 back....what are you seeing the common 2's at?<br />It is ugly...I bought it just for the back...<br /><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/41_1.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/57_1.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Dave,<br />Respectfully, that Hoffman is a low end 2, but a 2 nonetheless. I think some folks probably were a little turned off by the excessive corner rounding and the rubbed surface and faded color and passed on it.<br />Still; adding the Cycle Back to your collection is very cool indeed! The back actually looks nicer than the front!<br />Lastly; if your happy and it's a good value for you; that's all that matters.<br /><br />We still must buy/bid the card first; using the multipliers only as a very general guide.<br />I hope this helps your approach on future back variations.<br />RayB

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>Dave,<br /><br />As Brian intimated, some of us believe that the multipliers will indeed<br />change once the 206 super set gains sufficient data. It is still early to<br />guess what changes may occur to such standards as T206 Museum. As Peter implicitly indicates<br />earlier in the thread, it does seem likely that EPDG will be one of the first<br />to see a change. At this juncture, detailed card analyses such as Ray<br />just offered coupled with standards such as T206 Museum may be about the<br />best we have. Thankfully, the super set coupled with ongoing back surveys<br />does make me believe that the adjustments to the multipliers are not too far in the distant future.<br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />barry

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>now here is a subject that i can speak about with a decent amount of knowledge...T206 rare backs. i have been collecting them for 15 years. i used to chase every single one (including all factory variations), now i just want a nice representation of each brand...i recently have been upgrading my back collection and got some great deals...in the old days i got them raw, and slowly had PSA slab them...<br /><br />i just upgraded the following cards and here is what i paid for them: EPDG PSA 5, cycle PSA 5, Sovereign PSA 5, ALL for around $150 each, carolina brights PSA 3 for around $250, lenox PSA 3 for about $350...IMO, ALL very good deals...(this was over the past few months on eBay, the prices are to the best of my memory, i could be bit off).<br /><br />word of advice: hold onto the hindu SLer...they are tuffer to find, i have one in a PSA 1...

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>terrific information. and you'd hold unto the southern leaguer you say? I do like it, the only reason I was contemplating getting rid of it is because I was trying to stick to the portraits only for now.....and its not the prettiest card.b

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>you can collect the "Monster" in so many different ways...BUT IMO, i wouldn't limit your SLer collection to just portraits, they are tuff cards to get in general, especially with Hindu backs...<br /><br />as i have mentioned before (i think to you?)...when collecting the backs, try to grab the tuffer ones whenever you can...good luck!

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>what this a hell of a deal or what?<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-Howie-Camnitz-Arm-at-Side-SGC-3-VG-Lenox_W0QQitemZ250054489372QQihZ015QQcategoryZ5799 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-Howie-Camnitz-Arm-at-Side-SGC-3-VG-Lenox_W0QQitemZ250054489372QQihZ015QQcategoryZ5799 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>i paid about $350 for my PSA 3 Lenox, 2 months ago...so this is not that far off (although, i admit i did get a great deal on it...bottom line is, yes i agree this is a good deal, a lenox in vg condition should be in the $500+ area...i was watching this auction end also...but since i have it in a 3 already, i had no desire...you should have jumped on it.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Seems to me the backs multiplier on T206museum.com really needs to be updated. It has the black Lenox listed at 17x....so a PSA 3 or SGC 40 common at a regular sale price of $42....should at that rate go for about $715.

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Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>sources, such as T206museum, should just be used as a "guide"...i have seen so much varience over the years on multiplier prices...if someone wants it bad enough, they'll pay thru the roof...plus it ended at an odd time, friday afternoon...