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Archive 02-05-2007 04:14 PM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>seeing cards with ripped corners and in PSA 1's and SGC 10's....what really is the difference?....shouldnt they be in "A" holders?<br /><br />For that matter ,why wouldnt someone just rip the trimmed area and get a numerical grade, afterall the severe rounded corners with numerical grades are all trimmed.<br /><br />UNless the card is so rare just to have one, garbage in my opinion.

Archive 02-05-2007 05:20 PM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>One is intentional and the other usually is accidental and part of normal wear.<br /><br />Trimming involves intentionally altering the full length or width of the card, corner damage is different and can happen to any card that was not protected for 75+ years. <br /><br />Many sets are so delicate with brittle stock that the corners will just break and fall off sometimes, ie. T222, T200, E145-1, W512, etc.

Archive 02-05-2007 05:51 PM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>I see a lot nice looking authentics out selling poor graded cards anyways. I would often rather have a card with superior eye appeal thats "A" for some small alteration then a beat to hell 1.

Archive 02-06-2007 01:14 AM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>I agree that if a corner is ripped off (like some CJs), it should be in A holders. I don't understand numerical grades on cards with obvious missing piece/chunk (I'm not talking about a dinged T222 corner). For a tear I can see a PSA1/SGC10 grade. <br /><br />For me pinhole&gt;small tear&gt;half the back missing&gt;rip&gt;trim&gt;piss poor cards...I would generally pay more for a 1/10 than an A card although I try to avoid all the above. I'd take G/VG cards with rounding corners and a light crease/wrinkle any day.<br /><br /><img src="http://home.earthlink.net/~quannimir/images/e97youngbw.jpg">

Archive 02-06-2007 10:08 AM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>is one of the most artificial and irritating ones out there. If a card has a corner bashed off accidentally they will give it a 1; intentionally cut off, they often won't grade it. I've had exhibits with the coupons removed rejected for that when other cards with even greater total surface area % missing are graded. Drives me crazy.

Archive 02-06-2007 04:03 PM

ripped or trimmed ?
 
Posted By: <b>basestealer b. basestealer</b><p>I believe a trimmed card, or a card missing a piece of portion of it, is poor condition card. It should grade as such. Before grading services came to be, that is how it was done. When a card was scribbled on, marked with markers, cut, abused, or heavily worn--it became a poor condition card. Very little resale value, but good as a filler until a replacement could be found. The only thing that should be bodybagged is a counterfeit.


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