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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Card doesn't look real anyway to me...but dead giveaway is the back...Piedmont 350-450 subjects which there are no Matty portraits with that back...<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180090406317" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180090406317</a>

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Posted By: <b>mark</b><p>How he just purchased a bunch of cards from "an old collector's family who recently paste away "<br /><br />Thats a tough way to go --Paste away!!<br /><br /><br />Edited to say: horrible feedback is a give away.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>By the way...emailed the seller and said "Just so you know, this card is a fake, there are no Matty portraits with a Piedmont 350-460 back, should remove to avoid a negative from someone after they notice". <br /><br />His response..."I dont know, it's from an old collection"<br /><br />I don't know what he doesn't know...I didn't ask him a question...

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Check out bidder # 6......sweet...I am so glad ebay is protecting us....<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/Collection-of-baseball-tobacco-cards-Ty-Cobb-and-more_W0QQitemZ150096921011QQihZ005QQcategoryZ636QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150096921011" target="_new">http://cgi.ebay.com/Collection-of-baseball-tobacco-cards-Ty-Cobb-and-more_W0QQitemZ150096921011QQihZ005QQcategoryZ636QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150096921011</a>

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>He also has some fake Cracker Jacks for sale....what a jerk. <br />And too late to get ebay to step in with only hours to go...<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-Cracker-Jack-167-Clark-Griffith-good-condition_W0QQitemZ180090435405QQihZ008QQcategoryZ 86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1915-Cracker-Jack-167-Clark-Griffith-good-condition_W0QQitemZ180090435405QQihZ008QQcategoryZ 86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Regarding the above post from Mark - <br /><br />How he just purchased a bunch of cards from "an old collector's family who recently paste away "<br /><br />maybe he was trying to go with the unknown old<b>e</b> English<b>e</b> spelling of "past" (past<b>e</b>) which could be easily misconstrued as "passed" away by the uneducated idiots that would be bidding on this lot... <br /><br />I don't think that includes the potential shill bidder #6... I sure hope that bidder #4 stops bidding because this would force the seller into paying more for the final value fees when they have to pony them up because the shill went too high...

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Posted By: <b>Steve f</b><p>Not a bad looking counterfeit Matty. That other auction looks very fake. Those poor schmucks(I was one at one time). Despicable.<br /><br />Graded Matty above;<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1173110026.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>yeah, thats why I said the only for sure was the piedmont back didn't match up...otherwise could have fooled some people

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>i'm pretty sure that lot you posted was one I brought up last week when it was listed...(I think) barry sloate and I were discussing it in the thread..and if i remember correctly he had pictures of the backs then...the piedmont backs were red lettered as were the old mills.....<br /><br />that ring a bell barry?

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1172165446/last-1172188534/Careful+with+this+ebay+lot" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1172165446/last-1172188534/Careful+with+this+ebay+lot</a>...<br /><br /><br />He had removed the auction before..

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Yep, that's the same lot. And if he took the backs down, it's so that bidders won't so easily spot the fake red Piedmonts. Now it is tougher to tell!

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Now he writes me this....<br /><br />"I think you are being over your head for something you don't know. i'm sure since i don't agree with you so i can let you have them for cheap, you want to make boycot my auction right? well good luck doing that"<br /><br /><br />Yeah...thats it, I want the cards "for" cheap...<br />

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Posted By: <b>Judson Hamlin</b><p>"you want to make boycot"???<br /><br />It's Borat!!!

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Posted By: <b>Martin Neal</b><p>Thank you whoever -I buy fake cards- is. Iguess that's a legitimate way to inform the collecting public. Smiley face if I could!

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Now the idiot sends me this reply after telling him his cards are fake and should be taken down...<br /><br />"what do you know about law? You are violating the law by providing false information because you can't get what you want. it's called false reporting if you want lesson about the law. accusing me on what you don't know about is called false allegation and if you keep sending me your idiotic emails that is called ISP violation of conduct and if you insist on emailing me while i don't have any business with you it's a cyber crime. If you try to teach a law student about law you to step back"

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Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Smiley face: colon right parentheses <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><i>Winky</i> smiley face: semi-colon right parentheses <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Frowney face: colon left parentheses <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Dave- that last response from the scammer is classic.....

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>I probably shouldn't have ever contacted him again..but after his initial response to me...I "asked the seller" a question again..stating that I've reported his items and I hope he gets punished to the full extent of the law....that's the reason for the stupid message he sent me back. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>He sounds extraordinarily stupid. What happens when he tries to prosecute you for harassing him in cyberspace, and it's determined his card really is a fake. Who gets in trouble, you or him?

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Posted By: <b>mark</b><p>you contacted him because maybe he did not know it was a fake. Obviously he knew it was a fake and is belligerent about it. Don't waste your time with him.

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Posted By: <b>S Gross</b><p>I have to agree with Fred on the spelling -- I think he <i>spelt</i> it correctly.<br /><br />Or maybe it was a simple typo -- wanting to say <i>waste</i> away.<br /><br /><br />____________________<br /><br /><br />Also another short cut I discovered: To italic a word (as so cleverly done above), you don't have to use normal HTML, all you need is to put an * directly before and after the word. Haven't stumbled on underline or bold, but they probably exsist.<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Noblesville, Indiana is a small (but growing very rapidly) town about 40 minutes or less from downtown Indianapolis. I would love to take a real T206 or Cracker Jack up to him and show him what a real one looks like. But I am afraid even doing that wouldn't convince him that his is fake.<br /><br />On another note, I would love to show all of you a couple of responses I received from a seller of paper cut-outs (there was a seperate thread about this guy a month or so ago) but I can't right now. Too bad to because you would love the spelling.<br /><br />David

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Posted By: <b>mark</b><p>Is-that-the-guy-who-wrote-like-this?

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Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>these guys remind me of the "software" info-mertial guy who helps you sell on ebay...where he states "i cant promise you will make millions selling baseball cards" ...

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Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Haha, I love how he photographed the card on top of a bible<br />like that will add credibility or something.<br />"But, but... he's Christian, he<br />wouldn't <i>knowingly</i> sell a fake card!"<br /><br />WWJD! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Hahaha...

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>The lot with the fake piedmonts and old mills is gone (again)

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>If you try to teach a law student about law you to step back"<br /><br />Please let this guy know that a basic, rudimentary knowledge of grammar is essential in the practice of law and his inability to write coherently is a dead giveaway that he is not a law student as he would never have scored high enough on his LSAT to be admitted anywhere other than some matchbook cover law school.

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>Law? What do you know about the law? You can't handle the LAW!!!<br /><br />Truth is he can't handle the 5th grade spelling Bee either. <br><br>In Rememberance of James W. Brennan Sr. 1924-1982. Dad, thanks for everything you did for me.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>His email came through on his last message to me today...won't disclose his whole name..but his first name is Pierre...how many Pierre's are there in Indiana?

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Posted By: <b>Judson Hamlin</b><p>Obviously one too many<br /><br />So it isn't Borat - maybe it's Le Frog from Flushed Away<br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe Pelaez</b><p>That baby's back might have a potential factory 42 number. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Richard L.</b><p>The seller has piss-poor feedback. Also, the current high bidder(#9) became a member just today, is this a shill or one of the forum members trying to play along?

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Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>Wow. Check out the ending price. This is flat out stealing. Let's hope the 0 feedback bidder becomes a non-paying bidder. <br /><br />This kind of thing just makes me shake my head. <br /><br />By the way, if the buyer were to be alerted now that it is a fake, would that be considered auction interference?<br /><br />Joann