Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>JohnV</b><p>Can someone familiar with Zeenuts help me out? I'm trying to determine if this 1932 is Ken Williams of St Louis Browns fame?? Thanks John<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1223158289.JPG"><br />

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>One and the same!

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Ken was with Portland for 4 seasons, 1916, 1917, 1930, and 1931.<br /><br />.284 in 53 games in 1916<br />.313 in 192 games in 1917, with 24 home runs, 61 stolen bases.<br />.350 in 148 games in 1930, with 14 HRs, 110 RBIs, and .500 slugging.<br />.275 in 20 games in 1931. <br /><br />Williams was from Oregon, which might have been what enticed him to play for Portland in 1930 and 1931.<br /><br /><br />And those top corners look beautifully and uniformly rounded. Maybe the card was diecut with round corners, and the reason that bottom looks as it does is because the coupon is clipped. NOT.

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>boxingcardman</b><p>Easy big guy. Many Zeenuts are found with intentionally rounded corners because the kids played a flipping game with them and rounding off the cards made them easier to control. It was called "shooting" the cards. <br /><br />Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Is Frank saying that the coupon was clipped, but then trimmed again a second time?<br />Thanks for the stats. I think my card is a 1932 Zeenut. Was the card issued even though Williams had retired by that time?

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>See that "NOT" at the very end??? I'm not saying ZeeNuts were diecut round. I'm saying that E90-1s had rounded corners like ZeeNuts did. Only the game playing on the west coast was more brutal to the cards.<br /><br />And Ken W was a good ballplayer, virtually unknown by modern fans.

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Williams has been one of those guys whose name gets mentioned nearly every time the Veterans' Committee is about to meet. I agree that he was an above-average player who had the misfortune of playing in the wrong city, but feel there are more deserving candidates out there.

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Jodi Birkholm</b><p>Double post.

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>JohnV</b><p>Frank, Is there a site where I can see those stats and more?

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>Yes sir, email sent.<br /><br />FW

Ken Williams
 

Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p><br />&lt;&lt;Frank, Is there a site where I can see those stats and more? &gt;&gt;<br /><br /><br />For those that didn't get the email, here is a site with a minor league database searchable by name, team, league and/or year....<br /><br /><a href="http://minors.sabrwebs.com/cgi-bin/index.php" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://minors.sabrwebs.com/cgi-bin/index.php</a>