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Old 10-28-2012, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JimStinson View Post
I have a restaurant near my house who's sign reads "Worlds Greatest Hamburgers" ........Its a big world and I think their claim is probably false. BUT its a decent burger.
PSA says they are the worlds leading authenticator or whatever it is they say. Or the Best authentication service in the world or whatever.....Its called "marketing" and its up to the consumer of that product to determine if its not true or is true. If the business survives maybe that represents VALIDATION.
But there is a theory created by Darwin that says that in nature and origin of species, ESPECIALLY with regards to free enterprize that those that are not suited to their environment will not survive. TIME seperates fact from fiction. Naturally,
Despite anything we say or do. PSA has been in business for a good long while , ( I was there and I think its been about 12 years) If people want to spend their money there it is their CHOICE , Good or bad. They have every right to do it. My personal opinions OR ANYONE ELSES are invalid. The stronge survive , good eventually triumphs over evil.
So if collector "A" believes in that service and wants to spend his Bucks on it , I support him. And I support PSA , just as I support AAA, and AA and AARP and the NAACP or anything else you can place the letter "A" in ...because eventually ................TIME , not these posts will determine...fact from illusion. What a country !!!!
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I'm not so sure that is a good analogy when compared to this situation. When you went to the burger joint you ordered the "world's greatest burger", the burger was served to you, you ate it and you know what you got. Here, in this particular case you are paying for a service and don't even know if the service is being performed the way it is being sold/advertised/marketed to you. PSA/DNA claims they do this with every autograph they analyze:


After seeing this particular auction lot, which was "authenticated" by PSA/DNA, how is is possible that this "four-level Authentication System" was performed and that PSA/DNA would then offer a LOA stating:

"The signature(s) is/are consistent considering slant, flow, pen pressure, letter size, and other characteristics that are typical of the other exemplars that we have examined in our hobby or professional career."

PSA/DNA could put this whole thing to rest, come on here and show us the other exemplars that are consistent and typical when compared to this auction lot but they choose not to.

Does collector "A" necessarily believe in these TPA services or are a majority of these auction houses telling him he needs to use them to be accepted by their service?

If PSA/DNA in this particular case does not have consistent exemplars or have any evidence to support the Marciano signed gloves then are they "strong" or are they "full of shit"?

Is their offering their LOA based on honesty and led by their conscience or is it a gift to a start-up auction house that they want to land to enhance their credibilty?

My problem isn't with them stating that they are the "world's leading autograph experts", my problem is with them stating they are "authenticators".

authenticate: to prove or serve to prove that something is genuine

As I've mentioned in another thread, according to the definition above I've never seen an autograph that has been authenticated by PSA/DNA. They don't prove or serve to prove anything. They only issue non-evidence based letters with vague and unsubstantiated comments.

I have alot more respect for the little burger joint serving up an honest product. PSA/DNA, are they serving a delicious burger or are they serving cat's eyes fried in snot?

I wish I was in a position to investigate but unfortunately I'm not. Bureau of Consumer Protection, FBI take note, press for answers. People being duped, people being financially harmed? $25,000 dollars? A thank you for pulling an item that isn't real?
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