Both are nice cards! The Spahn : Looks like there is a wrinkle / light crease on the right side just half way down. If that is the case plan on a 4 at best maybe a 3. There is some discoloring at the lower corners and bottom edge of the card. There also appears to be a ding on the corner. The Palmer : Corners look good, my only question is the lower left appears to have slight rounding and not coming to a point like the other 3 corners. Perhaps I'm seeing something that's not there though. If the corner is pointed like the others, you should have a strong shot at an 8. I believe centering is ok on both cards. The Spahn is not close to an 8 in my opinion. I would measure the Spahn to see if it is the correct size for the issue. Again, really nice cards.
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