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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Is not to the educated folks on THIS board but to the tens of thousands of folks on ebay that DO buy the crap from 'Libertyforall'. I don't know what the answer is, but if there were slabbed authentic cards noting what the reason was it didn't get graded, to me that's far better than an unscrupulous seller on ebay selling the card for NRMT. At least it's entombed with what's keeping it from truly grading. Otherwise all these trimmed caramel cards would be floating around as NRMT or EXMT out there. Does that happen now? Yes. Will the unscrupulous seller be the one to get them graded--probably not. Who knows.

From Leon's description of what SGC is intending, I don't think Tom and MW have much to worry about--at least with altered cards. But.....I don't see the positive at all on getting a card that could be graded a SGC20 or 30 as 'authentic' or 'original' with no grade. Anyway.......this'll go on forever. In the end......little, if anything, will change.