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leonDoug is a great guy and I couldn't be happier for his success. My only meeting of Mr.Fogel was having dinner with him, that Doug very graciously invited me and my self proclaimed mentor, Scott B. too. He was very nice and unassuming and very unique. IF you remember Brian, we actually called you from dinner and I think you said hi to him..... My guess (and this is ONLY a guess) is that Mr. Fogel got them the old fashioned way. He paid a LOT of money for them !! regards all
btw, what an interesting dinner it was...