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Posted By: TBob

To suggest that "all" high grade specimens of vintage cards are trimmed, fake, or whatever similar point you were driving at is, in my opinion, a load of crap.>

Todd, I agree with you that this above statement is untrue. But I also believe that there are a lot of cards in 8 and 9 holders which have been altered by trimming, soaking and stretching and cutting, etc.