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fkwThe dark red one IMO is the toughest color, many think its cut from the postcard, but I have seen one that looks to have dotted lines on the bottom edge.
I believe Brad still has a Grove in this Dark Red color.
If you try to search old posts there are many with info about these cards.
PS. Here is a link to a nice page with some rare stuff pictured including the Dark Red W517-2 with the dotted line at the bottom
http://www.freewebs.com/goudeyhunter/