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Originally Posted by Theoldprofessor
Out: Elmer Flick What kind of name is that for a HOFer?
Jim Rice Erase one outstanding season (1976) and here's an ordinary player/DH who worked his way up the voting ladder. If one season gets you in, make way for Norm Cash. In mainly because the Boston crowd got what it wanted. Again.
In: Bill Madlock -- Lifetime .305 hitter, four batting championships
Al Oliver -- A batting championship, lifetime .303 hitter and 2700 hits.
Dale Murphy -- Dominant NL player in the '80s. Two MVPs, back to back. 398 homers Low overall average due to hanging on too long.
All three played for some bad (though not terrible) teams, out of the NY _ Boston corridor. And one who didn't ...
Gil Hodges On a team that featured some exceptional ballplayers (e.g. Reese, Robinson, Campy, Newk, Snider), Hodges was the one that nobody playing the Bums wanted to see in a clutch at bat. Managed the sorry Mets to a World Championship. And a guy who played the game the way it ought to be played, and lived his life the same way. The Hall ought to join him!
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Wow. I still don't get the hate Jim Rice gets and I'm a Yankees fan.
..............and then you throw in Bill Madlock because of the batting titles?
Rice had almost as high of a lifetime batting average, finished top 5 in the MVP voting six times. HR leader 3 times, RBI leader twice, 4 seasons of 200 or more hits.
Rice was a very competent Left Fielder, especially when he got a chance to do it every day after Yaz retired. He's 3rd All-Time in assists from a Left Fielder since they started tracking it, behind only Bonds and Yaz.
Madlock never finished in the top 5 MVP. Never had 200 hits. Not even close, which is shocking for a 4-time batting title winner. Never had 100 RBI's, never had 100 Runs scored. Guy was barely an everyday player.
