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Old 05-11-2011, 04:14 PM
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Christopher Williams
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Default Christopher Morales Forensic Investigator

It was recently discussed "Why do autograph items authenticated by Christopher Morales sell for a lot less than those certed by other authenticators?"

Let's discuss using common sense and logic.

Proponents of Christopher Morales blame it on "Morales bashing." True or false?

Mr. Morales calls himself (as per his website) a "Forensic Investigator." That title leads me to believe that he spends more time scrutinizing an autograph (or set of autographs) than other authenticators who aren't "Forensic Investigators." It is my belief also, that based on his title of "Forensic Investigator," that he, Mr. Morales, should also be held under more scrutiny based on his title of "Forensic Investigator."

Let's first examine the below Babe Ruth/Lou Gehrig dual-signed autograph bat that is presently up for auction on the Coach's Corner Auction site.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=266364

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During the last 10-11 years I can't remember any auction house, except Coach's Corner, that has auctioned off a Ruth/Gehrig dual-signed bat and they've listed numerous Ruth/Gehrig signed bats. Super rare item. The bidding so far on the above item is at $263.00. Is "Morales bashing" keeping the bidding down?

If I thought for one minute that the above Ruth/Gehrig dual-signed bat was authentic in my opinion, I'd make sure that I won that auction. I'd tear up the Morales COA and have it authenticated by two other authenticators and then I'd consign it to a major auction house and make a tidy profit.

I'm certain there are a ton of collectors, who as much as they may despise Coach's Corner, look for deals on there for a Gehrig, Ruth, Mathewson, Cobb, etc., signed item. Has anyone here ever found a "deal" on Coach's Corner that they eventually consigned to a major auction house?

If you owned a genuine Ruth/Gehrig signed bat, would you consign it to Coach's Corner?

If proponents of Mr. Morales really believe that the memorabilia he authenticates is truly genuine, then why aren't they bidding and buying the items that he's authenticated that are listed on the Coach's Corner auction site? I've seen numerous Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig signed jersey items that sold for under $400.00. Have proponents of Mr. Morales ever bid and won those auctions and then consigned them to a major house? If those items were authentic, you could have an easy life buying that stuff cheap and then consigning to a major auction house. But, the truth is, you never see those items consigned to a major auction auction after being sold at Coach's Corner.

Let's examine the below Christy Mathewson signed baseball that is authenticated by Mr. Morales.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=266367

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Christy Mathewson passed away at the young age of 45 in Oct. 1925. Anything signed by Christy Mathewson sells for big money. His signature is extremely rare. Mr. Morales has authenticated quite a few (relatively speaking) Christy Mathewson signed baseballs that Coach's Corner has auctioned off. The bidding on the above baseball is presently at $210.00.

Is "Morales bashing" keeping the bidding low? Definitely not. I know three people, who if they thought that the above Christy Mathewson was authentic, would make every effort to make sure they won that auction. They would get it certed by two authenticators and they would consign it to a major auction house. And they wouldn't care that it came from Coach's Corner; all they would see are dollar signs.

Are any supporters of Mr. Morales bidding on any of the Morales certed memorabilia on Coach's Corner this month?

Let's examine the below Lou Gehrig signed gray flannel jersey certed by "Forensic Investigator" Christopher Morales. Over the past two years Coach's Corner has auctioned off at least one dozen of these.

http://www.myccsa.com/Lot.aspx?LotID=264094

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The present bid is at $282.00. Is "Morales bashing" keeping the bidding low? Of the dozen or so sold at Coach's Corner over the past two years, why is it that none of them have ever surfaced at a major auction house? Why is the average final bid price on those dozen or so items approximately $400.00? Why aren't collectors of genuine Lou Gehrig memorabilia getting into a bidding war and driving the price up on pieces like this? Even the "shill bidding" that is allowed on the Coach's Corner auction site doesn't drive the price up on pieces like the above.

Why aren't supporters of Mr. Morales posting memorabilia authenticated by Mr. Morales to support their claims of "Morales bashing?"
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