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JohnnyHJSA or PSA is just another opinion with a little more authority and something to encase it in. They have no proof, no one does, unless you witness the auto or trust the person who says they saw it signed it's just an educated guess. Maybe Mantle needed a drink and had the shakes, maybe he was in a rush and was sloppy, maybe someone did a poor fake. This is why I don't and will never collect autographs, it's all speculation.