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Old 12-07-2009, 11:40 AM
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I agree with Mark and Rhett. Miller's status shouldn't depend on Kuhn's induction. Kuhn was a mistake and there's no reason to repeat it.

Herzog is very borderline. He was not nearly as bad as the various sub-500 managers who were on the ballot. But he was a mistake. There will be three much better qualified managers on the ballot soon (Larussa, Cox, and Torre), so I don't know what the need was to elect Herzog.

I don't know enough to comment on Doug Harvey's qualifications. But I do know that when the full Hall of Fame membership voted on candidates, he came the closest to election several times -- closer than any player. For a bunch of players to vote for an umpire over their fellow players says a lot to me. So I suspect he was an extraordinary umpire.
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