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Scott Forresteither was ESPN or anyone else living today, which is why a lot of the great athletes of prior generations are omitted from modern lists. I was reading some posts on another forum about the greatest black baseball players at each position - few of the posters were even alive at the time that these players played, but they were editing their posts, changing their minds, etc., about their lists. In actuality, only the people who saw these athletes perform really know how good they were, and then, only in comparison to others they have seen or based on what other eye-witnesses have said - the best we can do is read the accounts written about these players and make our decisions based on that. Stats alone aren't going to do it.