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Old 01-20-2017, 01:57 PM
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Right, which is why I brought up the Yankees. To me, the postseason difference is what makes Rivera a borderline unanimous HoFer, more than just a 1st ballot HoFer. Rivera also had 96 postseason appearances, and the Yankees made the playoffs nearly every year.

Can a closer, who is 2nd in MLB history in saves, be punished for only having 12 total postseason appearances (only 4 times did the Padres make the playoffs)? Hoffman is not unanimous, and that's not my argument. But he's 2nd to only Rivera in Career Saves, and Lee Smith isn't even close in 3rd place. He deserved to be a 1st ballot HoFer in my opinion.
saves is really a terrible stat. It tells us nothing about a player's actual ability. when compared to Rivera in things like WAR, K/9 BB/9 wRC+ against, ERA+...etc he falls wayyy behind both Rivera and Billy Wagner.

I think Hoffman is a HOF'er, but he wasn't as dominant as his save total says
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