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tbobmy first submission to SGC and being disappointed that my 1955 Topps All American football cards of Knute Rockne, Otto Graham, Red Grange and the Three Horsemen only came back as 84s and 88s, ditto some E97s which only came back as 60s and 50s. It wasn't until a couple of years later that I discovered everyone else's coming back with lower grades that I realized with SGC it is all relative. I guess that's why I continue sending them my caramel cards and being disappointed in the grades and then see everyone else is having the same "luck" with theirs.